From: John McCabe <john@nospam.assen.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: C++0x and Threads - a poor relation to Ada's tasking model?
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:09:27 +0100
Date: 2009-08-14T12:09:27+01:00 [thread overview]
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In-Reply-To: ea76ae4c-11c2-4986-ab72-78f5ece43a76@p36g2000vbn.googlegroups.com
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:24:33 -0700 (PDT), REH <spamjunk@stny.rr.com>
wrote:
>On Aug 13, 9:51�am, John McCabe <j...@nospam.assen.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> My point I guess is that some processors may have support for
>> facilities that map nicely on to Ada's exception handling, some
>> probably don't, but generalising in the way you have is not an
>> accurate representation (like there being no way to provide an
>> accurate representation of an object in C/C++ :-)
>
>You are making the assumption that hardware exceptions map to software
>exceptions.
It's not an assumption, it's a point; if an Ada compiler were to
choose not to use the features of the processor where those features
mapped closely to a feature of the language, then that's their choice.
I would hope that most compilers would assess whether the use of that
feature would be more effective than doing it "by hand" and choose
whichever is the most appropriate.
> An Ada run-time may do this (or it may not).
See above.
> C++ does not ( there is no such animal as C/C++).
Under the circumstances I use C/C++ to represent C and C++ as this
particular example is common to both; they both incorpoate
overwrapping semantics for operations on integer types (unlike Ada,
which provides a separate Modular type for that purpose).
>Ada has specific requirements for
>what happens when your Int16 overflows. C++ considered a signed
>integer overflow undefined behavior. The compiler is allowed to do
>anything it wants.
Oh dear.
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Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-08-11 15:30 C++0x and Threads - a poor relation to Ada's tasking model? John McCabe
2009-08-11 20:51 ` Maciej Sobczak
2009-08-12 12:25 ` John McCabe
2009-08-12 14:51 ` Maciej Sobczak
2009-08-12 15:56 ` REH
2009-08-12 16:59 ` John McCabe
2009-08-12 17:21 ` REH
2009-08-12 20:41 ` Robert A Duff
2009-08-12 21:15 ` REH
2009-08-13 1:28 ` Randy Brukardt
2009-08-13 2:08 ` REH
2009-08-13 8:38 ` Pascal Obry
2009-08-13 8:57 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-08-13 11:32 ` Pascal Obry
2009-08-13 12:28 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-08-14 1:15 ` Brian Drummond
2009-08-14 11:24 ` Language checks (Was: C++0x and Threads - a poor relation to Ada's tasking model?) Jacob Sparre Andersen
2009-08-14 12:01 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-08-14 13:33 ` REH
2009-08-14 13:48 ` John McCabe
2009-08-14 14:51 ` John McCabe
2009-08-14 14:13 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-08-14 19:58 ` Language checks Robert A Duff
2009-08-15 0:10 ` Language checks (Was: C++0x and Threads - a poor relation to Ada's tasking model?) Randy Brukardt
2009-08-14 13:10 ` C++0x and Threads - a poor relation to Ada's tasking model? Gautier write-only
2009-08-14 13:16 ` REH
2009-08-12 21:24 ` REH
2009-08-13 13:51 ` John McCabe
2009-08-13 16:24 ` REH
2009-08-14 11:09 ` John McCabe [this message]
2009-08-14 13:00 ` REH
2009-08-14 14:30 ` John McCabe
2009-08-14 14:49 ` REH
2009-08-14 14:54 ` John McCabe
2009-08-14 15:35 ` REH
2009-08-14 18:43 ` Robert A Duff
2009-08-14 18:54 ` REH
2009-08-14 22:33 ` Robert A Duff
2009-08-15 1:15 ` REH
2009-08-15 14:24 ` Robert A Duff
2009-08-14 15:09 ` Hyman Rosen
2009-08-14 15:12 ` REH
2009-08-13 13:55 ` John McCabe
2009-08-13 16:45 ` REH
2009-08-14 11:14 ` John McCabe
2009-08-12 20:53 ` Maciej Sobczak
2009-08-11 23:53 ` jimmaureenrogers
2009-08-12 0:06 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2009-08-12 7:26 ` Maciej Sobczak
2009-08-12 5:29 ` stefan-lucks
2009-08-12 15:00 ` Maciej Sobczak
2009-08-12 9:27 ` Ludovic Brenta
2009-08-12 15:14 ` Maciej Sobczak
2009-08-13 12:47 ` Peter C. Chapin
2009-08-13 13:57 ` John McCabe
2009-08-14 7:39 ` Maciej Sobczak
2009-08-14 11:13 ` John McCabe
2009-08-14 12:23 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-08-14 12:50 ` John McCabe
2009-08-14 13:50 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-08-14 13:58 ` Niklas Holsti
2009-08-14 14:17 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-08-14 22:25 ` Brian Drummond
2009-08-14 12:56 ` John McCabe
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