From: "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com>
Subject: Re: Why is Ada a good choice for an ambitious beginner to programming
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 15:25:59 -0600
Date: 2002-12-27T15:25:59-06:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <v0pha626igsl07@corp.supernews.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: GfFN9.2315$c6.2585@bos-service2.ext.raytheon.com
Wes Groleau wrote in message ...
>
>> Beginners to programming have a great deal of detail to absorb.
>> They do not need to be burdened by learning merely contingent
>> factoids, such as how to operate the not-necessarily-intuitive
>> user interface of an IDE. They do need an effortless text editor,
>
>Especially not one like JBuilder (and every other GUI builder
>I have ever seen) that not only generates code for you, but
>generates really BAD code (from a readability/maintainability
>perspective).
That was one of the goals of the Claw Builder: to generate readable Ada
code for the GUI. I think we've come reasonably close. A big help to
readability is that the Claw Builder allows the programmer to chose the
identifier names for items. In most cases, the Claw Builder generates
the same code that I would have written by hand. (There are some things
I would do differently today, but nothing major). The only real lack is
that there are no application-specific comments -- but those aren't
usually needed in the GUI. (User-defined code is built with their own
GUI and accessed by subprogram calls. We didn't want to try to write a
complete IDE in the Claw Builder.)
Randy Brukardt.
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2002-12-21 3:30 Why is Ada NOT a good choice for a beginner to programming? David Wright
2002-12-21 5:44 ` sk
2002-12-23 14:29 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-23 17:36 ` sk
2002-12-23 18:24 ` David Wright
2002-12-23 19:16 ` sk
2002-12-23 19:48 ` David Wright
2002-12-23 21:33 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-23 21:17 ` Robert A Duff
2002-12-24 19:22 ` faust
2002-12-24 0:46 ` Robert A Duff
2002-12-24 9:41 ` Pascal Obry
2002-12-25 4:43 ` faust
2002-12-27 17:54 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-01-02 13:50 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-25 7:24 ` AG
2003-01-02 9:56 ` John McCabe
2003-01-02 13:47 ` Wes Groleau
2003-01-08 19:39 ` faust
2003-01-08 2:44 ` Jeffrey Creem
2003-01-08 18:54 ` Wes Groleau
2003-01-08 19:48 ` chris.danx
2003-01-08 21:59 ` Wes Groleau
2003-01-09 15:31 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-01-10 3:26 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-01-10 22:58 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-01-10 3:51 ` Kevin Cline
2003-01-10 13:29 ` Wes Groleau
2003-01-11 12:09 ` Richard Riehle
2003-01-11 18:13 ` Wes Groleau
2003-01-09 16:52 ` faust
2003-01-08 21:57 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-01-09 0:59 ` faust
2003-01-09 0:59 ` faust
2003-01-08 13:14 ` Ted Dennison
2003-01-08 17:41 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-01-09 16:40 ` faust
2003-01-08 21:58 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2002-12-23 21:30 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-23 22:11 ` David Wright
2002-12-30 16:22 ` Mark
2002-12-24 0:50 ` Craig Carey
2002-12-29 14:44 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2002-12-21 8:39 ` arvids lemchens
2002-12-21 8:53 ` Gautier
2002-12-21 9:42 ` Craig Carey
2002-12-21 10:44 ` Dale Stanbrough
2002-12-21 15:47 ` Alfred Hilscher
2002-12-21 19:01 ` tmoran
2002-12-22 1:06 ` Robert C. Leif
2002-12-23 14:56 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-23 11:05 ` Alfred Hilscher
2002-12-22 0:34 ` James S. Rogers
2002-12-23 11:11 ` Alfred Hilscher
2002-12-23 14:32 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-23 19:54 ` tmoran
2002-12-21 10:51 ` Why is Ada a good choice for an ambitious beginner to programming Wojtek Narczynski
2002-12-22 14:40 ` Bill Findlay
2002-12-22 15:08 ` Bill Findlay
2002-12-22 23:02 ` David Wright
2002-12-23 1:36 ` Bill Findlay
2002-12-23 2:13 ` David Wright
2002-12-23 14:40 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-27 21:25 ` Randy Brukardt [this message]
2002-12-23 11:52 ` Wojtek Narczynski
2002-12-23 14:12 ` Bill Findlay
2002-12-23 20:15 ` Wojtek Narczynski
2002-12-24 19:29 ` Bill Findlay
2002-12-24 22:56 ` Wojtek Narczynski
2002-12-24 23:31 ` Bill Findlay
2002-12-24 23:36 ` Adrian Knoth
2002-12-25 8:23 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-12-27 17:27 ` Kevin Cline
2002-12-28 1:56 ` Bill Findlay
2002-12-28 2:13 ` Bill Findlay
2002-12-29 6:07 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-12-23 20:52 ` Wojtek Narczynski
2002-12-23 20:07 ` chris.danx
2003-01-02 10:04 ` John McCabe
2003-01-02 21:32 ` Bill Findlay
2003-01-04 22:55 ` David Wright
2003-01-05 0:50 ` Bill Findlay
2003-01-05 2:18 ` David Wright
2003-01-05 3:57 ` John R. Strohm
2003-01-10 2:51 ` Richard Riehle
2003-01-10 9:45 ` David Wright
2003-01-10 10:59 ` Richard Riehle
2003-01-11 17:47 ` u.r. faust
2003-01-06 9:43 ` John McCabe
2003-01-06 10:05 ` John McCabe
2003-01-06 11:13 ` Bill Findlay
2003-01-10 2:58 ` Richard Riehle
2003-01-10 9:29 ` John McCabe
2002-12-21 11:57 ` Why is Ada NOT a good choice for a beginner to programming? David Marceau
2002-12-21 15:59 ` Alfred Hilscher
2002-12-21 17:48 ` Britt Snodgrass
2002-12-21 20:05 ` Peter Hend�n
2002-12-22 1:54 ` faust
2002-12-22 1:28 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-12-22 2:11 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-12-22 22:49 ` faust
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2002-12-23 14:55 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-24 14:01 ` W D Tate
2002-12-24 20:06 ` Rod Haper
2002-12-25 0:37 ` noone
2002-12-26 13:23 ` W D Tate
2002-12-26 20:37 ` David Starner
2002-12-27 14:02 ` W D Tate
2003-01-13 12:18 ` John English
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