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From: Stephen Leake <stephen_leake@acm.org>
Subject: Re: How do you bitwise operations in Ada '83 and '95
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 11:59:43 -0400
Date: 2006-07-23T11:59:43-04:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <uwta448i8.fsf@acm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: m2bqrihj0j.fsf@grendel.local

Simon Wright <simon@pushface.org> writes:

> Stephen Leake <stephen_leake@acm.org> writes, responding to me:
>
>>> I have a feeling that shift&mask ends up more understandable 
>>
>> Never.
>>
>>> and reviewable.
>>
>> In Ada 95, maybe. In Ada 2005, not.
>
> Really, understandable and reviewable are very similar, so I don't see
> how something could be (possibly) more reviewable while never more
> understandable.

Hmm. To me, "understandable" means "expressed in terms I am familiar
with, using idioms I am familiar with, and unambiguous". Or something
like that.

While "reviewable" means "traceable to source documentation".

So if I am familiar with the Ada 95 idiom for endianness-independent
rep clauses, they are "understandable". But because they are complex,
they may be less reviewable. I've never done a _formal_ review (trace to
source docs) of any software, so I'm on shaky ground here.

> Seriously, the C
>
>   field = (longword >> 15) & 0x3f;
>
> is pretty clear.

At the bit level, yes. But if the 7 bits are supposed to represent
some object, actual names would be far preferable.

-- 
-- Stephe



  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-07-23 15:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <8B57A49E-38E9-44DC-9B4A-A3F69E058A97@amado-alves.info>
2006-07-20  9:39 ` Fwd: How do you bitwise operations in Ada '83 and '95 Marius Amado-Alves
2006-07-20 17:54   ` tmoran
2006-07-20 18:30     ` Marius Amado-Alves
2006-07-20 19:36       ` tmoran
2006-07-20 22:09         ` Simon Wright
2006-07-21 10:07           ` Stephen Leake
2006-07-21 19:09             ` Simon Wright
2006-07-21 19:45               ` tmoran
2006-07-23 15:59               ` Stephen Leake [this message]
2006-07-24  6:08                 ` Simon Wright
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2006-07-20 20:41 ` Marius Amado-Alves
2006-07-20 23:13   ` Randy Brukardt
2006-07-21  5:38     ` Marius Amado-Alves
2006-07-21 22:09       ` Randy Brukardt
     [not found] <BFF12262-F906-4F9A-B867-D0373609F038@amado-alves.info>
2006-07-20 16:40 ` Marius Amado-Alves
     [not found] <9315684D-C216-4EDA-8852-0A6BD4C275B0@amado-alves.info>
2006-07-19 22:30 ` Marius Amado-Alves
2006-07-20  7:40   ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-07-20  9:29     ` Colin Paul Gloster
2006-07-20 12:31       ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-07-20 13:08         ` Colin Paul Gloster
2006-07-20 13:29           ` Marius Amado-Alves
2006-07-20 13:49           ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-07-21  5:23             ` Colin Paul Gloster
2006-07-21  8:00               ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-07-20  9:03   ` Stephen Leake
2006-07-20  9:38     ` Marius Amado-Alves
2006-07-21  9:53       ` Stephen Leake
2006-07-20 11:31     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-07-20 13:18       ` Marius Amado-Alves
2006-07-21  9:58       ` Stephen Leake
2006-07-21 12:09         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-07-21 19:03           ` Simon Wright
2006-07-22  8:32             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-07-22  8:57               ` Simon Wright
2006-07-22 10:52               ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-07-22 13:31                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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2006-07-18 18:45 ` Robert A Duff
2006-07-18 18:53 ` jimmaureenrogers
2006-07-18 19:22   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2006-07-18 21:32     ` jimmaureenrogers
2006-07-19  0:40       ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2006-07-19  3:55         ` jimmaureenrogers
2006-07-19  4:37           ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2006-07-19 13:05             ` jimmaureenrogers
2006-07-19 19:43               ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2006-07-19 14:41             ` Robert A Duff
     [not found]             ` <1153313832.389434.144930@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
2006-07-19 13:55               ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-07-19 14:20               ` Robert A Duff
2006-07-19 19:30               ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2006-07-18 19:21 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2006-07-19  3:01 ` tmoran
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