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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Ada vs Eiffel - Ada programmer approach
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 21:52:58 +0200
Date: 2009-05-26T21:52:58+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <uw2akaqgnepe$.1i0g9dauyj3x3.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 4a1c2dfe$0$30236$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net

On Tue, 26 May 2009 19:59:26 +0200, Georg Bauhaus wrote:

> Dmitry A. Kazakov schrieb:
> 
>> There is no loop since "contract is satisfied" is not a variable. Otherwise
>> you cannot design "by contract", obviously.
> 
> The Eiffel answer is that yes, you can do that because
> in order to get anything done, assertion checking must
> not happen at times.  That's a reasonable design, because
> there is no practical alternative. ;-)

Confusing things? (:-))

>> Ada's static typing system and SPARK do it right.
> 
> SPARK imposes limitations that are not present when employing
> DbC.

More checks you want to do more language limitations you need. Nothing is
for free.

> SPARK cannot replace DbC, or improve it, and vice versa,
> basically because DbC (not used as static assertions only) and
> SPARK are largely incommensurable.

Nope, the point is not how many checks, it is about consistency of checks.
SPARK does it consistently, Eiffel does not.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de



  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-26 19:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-24  8:39 Ada vs Eiffel - Ada programmer approach Tomek Walkuski
2009-05-24 11:49 ` anon
2009-05-24 12:26   ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-05-24 12:17 ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-05-24 16:31 ` Pascal Obry
2009-05-25 16:32   ` Rugxulo
2009-05-26 13:37   ` Ludovic Brenta
2009-05-26 14:51     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-05-26 17:26       ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-05-26 17:39         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-05-26 17:59           ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-05-26 19:52             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2009-05-26 20:14               ` Pascal Obry
2009-05-26 20:25                 ` Pascal Obry
2009-05-26 21:28                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-05-26 18:23       ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2009-05-26 15:07     ` Tim Rowe
2009-05-26 16:37       ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-05-28  8:37         ` Nicholas Paul Collin Gloucester
2009-06-01 16:22         ` Tim Rowe
2009-06-04  7:35       ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2009-06-04  9:46         ` Martin
2009-06-04 12:16           ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2009-06-04  9:56         ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2009-06-16  6:58         ` ardjussi
2009-06-16 17:22           ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2009-05-26 18:21     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2009-05-26 18:35       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-06-04  7:39       ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2009-06-04  9:02         ` Ludovic Brenta
2009-06-04  9:19           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-06-04 12:14             ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2009-06-04 14:14               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-06-04 16:45         ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2009-06-04  7:30     ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2009-06-04  7:55       ` Ludovic Brenta
2009-06-04  8:45         ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-06-04  9:03           ` Ludovic Brenta
2009-06-04 13:25         ` Robert A Duff
2009-06-04 13:39           ` Martin
2009-06-04 13:08             ` stefan-lucks
2009-06-08 12:41           ` Samuel Tardieu
2009-06-08 19:37             ` Robert A Duff
2009-06-08 22:52               ` Randy Brukardt
2009-06-09  7:39                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-06-10  6:55               ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2009-06-10  6:58               ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2009-06-10 11:10                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-06-04  7:04   ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2009-06-04  6:04 ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2009-06-06 14:27   ` Marco
2009-06-06 15:37     ` Tomek Wałkuski
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