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From: Stephen Leake <Stephen.A.Leake@nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: Ada2005 clear screen etc.
Date: 05 Mar 2003 12:44:47 -0500
Date: 2003-03-05T17:58:48+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <uu1ehpv1s.fsf@nasa.gov> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.0.1046882783.4331.comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org

sk <noname@myob.com> writes:

> Let the market decide on useful *external* libraries, but do not
> burden the language itself with items possibly subject to fashion
> or politics.

I agree. 

However, the ANSI standard for terminals has been around for a long
time, and still has some use. Why not put it in the Ada standard?

I have never used many of the appendices in Ada; that doesn't mean
they should not be there.

A compiler vendor might chime in that no customer of theirs has ever
requested this feature; that would be more meaningful than individual
posters on comp.lang.ada saying "i've never needed this". Several
compiler vendors saying that would be even more meaningful. Hmm. I
guess that's the "market" you talk about above; so I guess I agree
with you again :)

> Eg, Sockets : Windows has an API for sockets, the rest of the world
> has another. I would not like for Ada, a few years from now, tied to
> the obsolete socket API when the politics gets sorted out and one
> API is accepted by all. Also especially since the abstract concept
> of "sockets" might have changed altogther and be called "connection"
> or "channel" or something.

You do have to pick a standard sometime; there will always be a
"better" way "just around the corner". The trick is to pick the right
time.

For sockets, it seems that GNAT.Sockets (also AdaSockets? I have not
actually used either) works well on both Unix and Windows, so that
seems a reasonable candidate for an Ada standard.

-- 
-- Stephe



  reply	other threads:[~2003-03-05 17:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-03-01 23:27 Newbie: display control svaa
2003-03-02  0:12 ` tmoran
2003-03-02  1:30 ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
2003-03-02 10:11 ` Gautier
2003-03-02 11:54   ` Frank J. Lhota
2003-03-02 12:53   ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-03-02 14:24     ` Frank J. Lhota
2003-03-02 21:30       ` Aurele Vitali
2003-03-04 11:02     ` Gautier
2003-03-03 20:17 ` Stephen Leake
2003-03-03 22:04   ` John R. Strohm
2003-03-04 15:56   ` Frank J. Lhota
2003-03-04 17:45     ` Stephen Leake
2003-03-05  8:44       ` Ada2005 clear screen etc Peter Hermann
2003-03-05 13:40         ` Preben Randhol
2003-03-05 14:42           ` Peter Hermann
2003-03-05 14:45             ` Preben Randhol
2003-03-05 15:12               ` Peter Hermann
2003-03-06 13:04               ` Marin David Condic
2003-03-16  4:37                 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-03-16 11:04                   ` Preben Randhol
2003-03-17 21:17                     ` Randy Brukardt
2003-03-18  8:48                       ` Preben Randhol
2003-03-18  9:23                         ` Preben Randhol
2003-03-18 20:31                         ` Randy Brukardt
2003-03-19  8:13                           ` Preben Randhol
2003-03-05 22:20           ` Frode Tennebø
2003-03-05 22:27           ` Frode Tennebø
2003-03-05 16:52         ` sk
2003-03-05 17:44           ` Stephen Leake [this message]
2003-03-05 20:46             ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-03-06 13:09               ` Marin David Condic
2003-03-06 19:52                 ` Stephen Leake
2003-03-07 12:49                   ` Marin David Condic
2003-03-06 19:54         ` sk
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