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From: Ray Blaak <rAYblaaK@STRIPCAPStelus.net>
Subject: Re: Inherited Methods and such
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 22:20:15 GMT
Date: 2007-09-26T22:20:15+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <usl5183xh.fsf@STRIPCAPStelus.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1190843408.713838.128690@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com

Maciej Sobczak <see.my.homepage@gmail.com> writes:
> My claim in this lengthy and philosophical discussion is that C++
> provides a complete solution which can be shortly described like this:
> the final type is not established from the very beginning, but is
> progressively moving along the inheritance chain as the subsequent
> constructors of base types complete their work. Thank's to this,
> primitive operations never dispatch further than what can be
> statically reasoned about.

Java has this problem. The rule is to not call overridden functions in the
constructor, since they tend to assume the object is completely constructed.

It is not the type that is the problem. It is calling subclassed methods on an
instance that is not completely constructed yet.

You don't want to progressively change the type either, since that can also
lead to unexpected changes in behaviour.

-- 
Cheers,                                        The Rhythm is around me,
                                               The Rhythm has control.
Ray Blaak                                      The Rhythm is inside me,
rAYblaaK@STRIPCAPStelus.net                    The Rhythm has my soul.



  reply	other threads:[~2007-09-26 22:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-17 14:26 Inherited Methods and such shaunpatterson
2007-09-17 15:11 ` Ludovic Brenta
2007-09-17 16:46   ` shaunpatterson
2007-09-17 19:07     ` Ludovic Brenta
2007-09-17 20:22   ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-17 21:07     ` Ludovic Brenta
2007-09-18 14:27       ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-18 14:27       ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-18 15:25         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-18 18:34           ` Ludovic Brenta
2007-09-18 19:29             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-18 19:39               ` Ludovic Brenta
2007-09-18 20:49                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-18 21:10               ` Simon Wright
2007-09-18 20:39           ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-18 21:12             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-19 14:49               ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-19 15:16                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-19 22:13                   ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-20  8:12                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-20 13:52                       ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-20 16:22                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-20 20:45                           ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-21 18:59                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-21 21:02                               ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-22  8:48                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-22 21:53                                   ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-23  8:41                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-23 20:36                                       ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-24  9:32                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-24 15:02                                           ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-24 19:20                                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-25 20:53                                               ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-26 10:42                                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-26 21:31                                                   ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-27 15:02                                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-27 21:02                                                       ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-26 12:21                                                 ` Robert A Duff
2007-09-26 12:54                                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-26 21:37                                                   ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-26 23:47                                                     ` Randy Brukardt
2007-09-27 21:08                                                       ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-28  0:44                                                         ` Randy Brukardt
2007-09-28 20:32                                                           ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-28 22:35                                                             ` Randy Brukardt
2007-09-29 23:58                                                             ` Robert A Duff
2007-09-26 12:26                                                 ` Robert A Duff
2007-09-26 21:50                                                   ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-26 22:20                                                     ` Ray Blaak [this message]
2007-09-27  0:01                                                     ` Randy Brukardt
2007-09-27 13:39                                                     ` Robert A Duff
2007-09-27 14:54                                                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-28  0:35                                                         ` Randy Brukardt
     [not found]                                                           ` <7p6gc1s9imfa$.kmvwf5zyf8e9.dlg@40tude.net>
2007-09-28 22:53                                                             ` Randy Brukardt
2007-09-29 20:37                                                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-27 21:23                                                       ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-28 19:12                                                         ` Robert A Duff
2007-09-28 19:02                                                     ` Robert A Duff
2007-09-28 19:42                                                       ` Robert A Duff
2007-09-28 20:44                                                         ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-28 22:40                                                           ` Randy Brukardt
2007-09-29 20:35                                                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-29 20:52                                                             ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-30  8:38                                                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-29 23:47                                                             ` Robert A Duff
2007-09-29 20:48                                                           ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-29 23:39                                                             ` Robert A Duff
2007-09-30  8:38                                                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-29 23:42                                                           ` Robert A Duff
2007-09-25  1:59                                   ` Randy Brukardt
2007-09-25  8:59                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-25 21:02                                       ` Randy Brukardt
2007-09-26 12:42                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-18  4:03 ` Steve
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