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From: "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com>
Subject: Re: if file exist
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 13:43:41 -0500
Date: 2002-09-27T13:43:41-05:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <up99ko7dg3e2bd@corp.supernews.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 8db3d6c8.0209270247.5bf07ae5@posting.google.com

steve_H wrote in message
<8db3d6c8.0209270247.5bf07ae5@posting.google.com>...
>Robert A Duff <bobduff@shell01.TheWorld.com> wrote in message
news:<wccadm41jqs.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com>...
>
>> I don't agree that "a general solution is not possible".
>> A File_Exists return Boolean function makes perfect sense.
>> Of course it returns False if the file is invisible to the
>> current process (because it "exists" in an inaccessible directory).
>> To *this* process, that file does not exist.
>
>But the above is not logical. If your function return FALSE, then one
>does not know if this means the file actually does not exist, or that
>the function was not able to determine if it exist or not becuase of
>permission issues.  The user might want to know this.


That would be a terrible breach of security. Simply that fact that
something exists can be used as an attack point or a way to transmit
information. To a process that doesn't have permission to a directory,
no information whatsover about the file should be available.

The point is that "If_Exist" is meaningless by itself. Its meaning
depends on permissions and capabilities and probably other stuff that
couldn't practically be standardized.

Of course, if everyone implemented Ada.Directories, you could use that
and figure out whatever interpretation you'd like.

          Randy.






  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-09-27 18:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2002-09-22  9:58 ` if file exist Preben Randhol
2002-09-22 19:25   ` Keith Thompson
2002-09-22 11:26 ` Dale Stanbrough
2002-09-22 14:45   ` Simon Wright
2002-09-22 17:24     ` Frank J. Lhota
2002-09-22 19:24     ` Keith Thompson
2002-09-22 22:20     ` Dale Stanbrough
2002-09-23  5:14       ` Simon Wright
2002-09-23 12:38         ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-09-26  0:39           ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-26 16:48             ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-09-26 22:14               ` Robert A Duff
2002-09-27 10:47                 ` steve_H
2002-09-27 14:01                   ` Robert A Duff
2002-09-27 18:43                   ` Randy Brukardt [this message]
2002-09-28  1:17                     ` Keith Thompson
2002-09-28 13:04                       ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-29  4:50                         ` Keith Thompson
2002-09-29  5:13                           ` Christopher Browne
2002-09-27 21:59                   ` Mark Biggar
2002-09-27 23:09                     ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-10-04 20:56                     ` Stefan Skoglund
2002-10-05 13:59                       ` Robert A Duff
2002-10-06 20:35                         ` Keith Thompson
2002-10-07  0:34                       ` Robert A Duff
2002-10-07  5:42                     ` David Thompson
2002-10-13 17:05                       ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-10-21  2:17                         ` David Thompson
2002-09-22 11:55 ` Per Sandbergs
2002-09-22 22:29 ` SteveD
2002-09-23  1:53   ` if_file_exist : it's working thankyou all! Dominic D'Apice
2002-09-23  5:25     ` Simon Wright
2002-09-23 23:59       ` Dominic D'Apice
2002-09-25 19:13         ` Simon Wright
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