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From: Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen <ohk@clustra.com>
Subject: Re: JOB:Sr. SW Engineers Wanted-Fortune 500 Co
Date: 2000/02/01
Date: 2000-02-01T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <umqu2jshe2y.fsf@gong1.clustra.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 877081$knt$1@nnrp1.deja.com

Ted Dennison <dennison@telepath.com> writes:

> In article <t7g0vdq2x0.fsf@calumny.jyacc.com>,
>   Hyman Rosen <hymie@prolifics.com> wrote:
> > Hyman Rosen <hymie@prolifics.com> writes:
> > > Ted Dennison <dennison@telepath.com> writes:
> > > > find it appalling that anyone would develop a product like a
> > > > pacemaker, on which the life of a human being depends on its
> > > > continuous reliable operation, in a language known to be as
> > > > error-prone as C. This is not an opportunity for me to be
> > OK, I'm being a smartass, but I am making a valid point.
> > Having its software written in Ada was not enough to keep
> > the Ariane 5 from going off-course and being blown up. In
> 
> That's a good point. Luckily, I never claimed any such thing. If someone
> does, tell me and I'll jump in with you.
> 
> > the same way, having the software of a pacemaker written
> > in C is not enough to force it to blow up. I would assume
> > that pacemaker software undergoes thorough critical-systems
> > development and testing regardless of what language it's
> > written in.
> 
> No. But testing does not guarantee the total absence of bugs either
> (another Arianne lesson). Thus it is not sufficient in my view to make
> up for poor development tools with testing. By that logic it would be
> perfectly OK for me to hand-machine aircraft parts with a hammer and
> chisel, as long as they were all thoroughly tested.
> 
> --
> T.E.D.

It seem to me that you are severly underestimating the utility of hand
tools, and the precision you can obtain by manual work.
Followups to rec.crafts.metalworking :-)

> 
> http://www.telepath.com/~dennison/Ted/TED.html
> 
> 
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> Before you buy.

-- 
E pluribus Unix




  parent reply	other threads:[~2000-02-01  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-01-30  0:00 JOB:Sr. SW Engineers Wanted-Fortune 500 Co Tracy Goembel
2000-01-31  0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-01-31  0:00   ` Hyman Rosen
2000-01-31  0:00     ` Mike Silva
2000-02-01  0:00       ` Hyman Rosen
2000-02-01  0:00         ` Pat Rogers
2000-02-01  0:00           ` Hyman Rosen
2000-02-01  0:00             ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-02-01  0:00               ` Hyman Rosen
2000-02-02  0:00                 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2000-02-02  0:00                 ` Roger Racine
2000-02-04  0:00                 ` Mike Silva
2000-02-17  0:00                 ` Charles Hixson
2000-02-01  0:00             ` Pat Rogers
2000-02-01  0:00               ` Hyman Rosen
2000-02-01  0:00                 ` Pat Rogers
2000-02-01  0:00                   ` Richard D Riehle
2000-02-01  0:00                     ` Hyman Rosen
2000-02-02  0:00                       ` Richard D Riehle
2000-02-17  0:00                         ` Charles Hixson
2000-02-01  0:00               ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-02-01  0:00             ` Mike Silva
2000-02-05  0:00           ` JP Thornley
2000-02-01  0:00         ` Mike Silva
2000-02-01  0:00           ` Hyman Rosen
2000-02-01  0:00           ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-01-31  0:00     ` Hyman Rosen
2000-02-01  0:00       ` Gautier
2000-01-31  0:00         ` Hyman Rosen
2000-02-01  0:00       ` Scott Ingram
2000-02-01  0:00       ` Ted Dennison
2000-02-01  0:00         ` Hyman Rosen
2000-02-02  0:00           ` Rod Chapman
     [not found]           ` <m3emaug917.fsf@blight.transcend.org>
2000-02-03  0:00             ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-02-01  0:00         ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen [this message]
2000-01-31  0:00     ` Mike Silva
2000-02-01  0:00     ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2000-02-01  0:00       ` Ted Dennison
2000-02-01  0:00         ` Karel Thoenissen
     [not found]           ` <879hjf$ggv$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
2000-02-02  0:00             ` Geography (was: JOB:Sr. SW Engineers Wanted-Fortune 500 Co) Karel Thoenissen
2000-02-02  0:00               ` Ted Dennison
2000-02-02  0:00                 ` Gautier
2000-02-02  0:00             ` Jean-Marc Bourguet
2000-02-01  0:00       ` JOB:Sr. SW Engineers Wanted-Fortune 500 Co Larry Kilgallen
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