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From: Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen <ohk@clustra.com>
Subject: Re: Where is the elusive jump command?
Date: 2000/04/06
Date: 2000-04-06T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <umq8zyrmzgp.fsf@gong2.clustra.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 2000Apr5.070127.1@eisner

kilgallen@eisner.decus.org (Larry Kilgallen) writes:

> In article <umqvh1wnaad.fsf@gong2.clustra.com>, Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen <ohk@clustra.com> writes:
> > Robert Dewar <dewar@gnat.com> writes:
> 
> >> But in any case, binding to C is hardly a topic that is
> >> appropriate to people first learning the language!
> >> 
> > 
> > Certainly, but writing bindings to C is one of the first things you
> > have to do if you start using Ada for systems programming on Unix,
> > unfortunately.
> 
> I am not sure what you mean by "systems programming" in this case.
> I would presume that writing device drivers requires knowledge of
> internal data structures, but don't vendors like Rational supply
> bindings to Unix entrypoints that might be called by user-mode
> programs ?

I was not thinking device drivers, but systems like communications
systems or DBMS's, which typically will need access to Unix
entrypoints or system calls. A thick binding designed by someone who
is unaware of the specific needs of the system may not be suitable.

An example of the the need for system calls: A couple of months ago I
wanted to test various implementations of asynchronous IO (Sun
asynchronous IO, POSIX asynchronous IO, and Ada). However, to do a
meaningful test, I need to ensure that I/O operations on the file
descriptor complete as defined by synchronized I/O data integrity
rules. This means either using the fcntl or fsync system calls, or
setting the O_SYNC flag in the call to open.

In this case, needing only a few system calls, it may be more cost
effective to write your own binding, as it's usually not difficult.

Yes, it may be possible to buy such a binding, although I have not
seen any reference to it, either on Rational's web pages, nor on
Adahome's list of bindings. 

There is a reference to a POSIX binding, but that seems very much to
be a work in progress.

Ole-Hj. Kristensen

-- 
E pluribus Unix




  reply	other threads:[~2000-04-06  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-03-21  0:00 Where is the elusive jump command? dis90072
2000-03-21  0:00 ` Nicolas Brunot
2000-03-21  0:00 ` Nicolas Brunot
2000-03-21  0:00 ` Stanley R. Allen
2000-03-27  0:00 ` Robert A Duff
2000-03-28  0:00   ` Ken Garlington
2000-03-28  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
2000-03-28  0:00       ` Ken Garlington
2000-03-28  0:00         ` Marin D. Condic
2000-03-28  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
2000-03-29  0:00             ` Marin D. Condic
2000-03-29  0:00               ` Gary Scott
2000-03-29  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
2000-03-30  0:00                   ` David Starner
2000-03-30  0:00                     ` Marin D. Condic
2000-03-30  0:00                       ` Dan Nagle
2000-03-30  0:00                         ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-03-31  0:00                           ` Gisle S�lensminde
2000-03-30  0:00                         ` David Starner
2000-03-30  0:00                       ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-03-30  0:00                       ` Gary Scott
2000-03-31  0:00                         ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-03-31  0:00                           ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-03-31  0:00                             ` Gary Scott
2000-03-30  0:00                       ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-03-31  0:00                       ` Gautier
2000-03-31  0:00                       ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-12  0:00                         ` Robert A Duff
2000-04-12  0:00                           ` Stanley R. Allen
2000-04-12  0:00                             ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-04-13  0:00                               ` Stanley R. Allen
2000-04-14  0:00                                 ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-04-14  0:00                                   ` BASIC->Ada, was " tmoran
2000-04-15  0:00                                 ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-15  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-13  0:00                           ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-03-31  0:00                       ` Gisle S�lensminde
2000-03-30  0:00                   ` Gautier
2000-03-30  0:00                     ` Gary Scott
2000-03-30  0:00                       ` Gautier
2000-03-30  0:00                       ` David Starner
2000-03-30  0:00                         ` William B. Clodius
2000-03-30  0:00                   ` Gary Scott
2000-03-30  0:00               ` Alfred Hilscher
2000-03-29  0:00             ` Richard D Riehle
2000-03-29  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
2000-03-30  0:00                 ` Alfred Hilscher
2000-04-01  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-04  0:00                     ` Alfred Hilscher
2000-04-05  0:00                     ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2000-04-05  0:00                       ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-04-06  0:00                         ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen [this message]
2000-04-06  0:00                           ` OS Bindings (was: Where is the elusive jump command?) Larry Kilgallen
2000-04-06  0:00                             ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2000-04-06  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-07  0:00                               ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-09  0:00                                 ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-10  0:00                                   ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-12  0:00                                     ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-12  0:00                                       ` Robert A Duff
2000-04-12  0:00                                         ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-12  0:00                                           ` Robert A Duff
2000-04-12  0:00                                             ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-12  0:00                                               ` Robert A Duff
2000-04-15  0:00                                                 ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-15  0:00                                                   ` Gisle S�lensminde
2000-04-15  0:00                                                 ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-13  0:00                                               ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-13  0:00                                                 ` Gisle S�lensminde
2000-04-12  0:00                                             ` Florian Weimer
2000-04-13  0:00                                             ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-13  0:00                                               ` Robert A Duff
2000-04-18  0:00                                                 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-15  0:00                                               ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-15  0:00                                                 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-12  0:00                                           ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-12  0:00                                           ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-12  0:00                                       ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-12  0:00                                         ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-13  0:00                                           ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-15  0:00                                             ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-15  0:00                                               ` Tarjei T. Jensen
     [not found]                             ` <eisner comp.lang.ada:53670>
2000-04-06  0:00                               ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-04-06  0:00                                 ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-08  0:00                                   ` nickerson
2000-04-09  0:00                                     ` Robert Dewar
2000-03-30  0:00                 ` Where is the elusive jump command? Richard D Riehle
2000-04-01  0:00                   ` Robert A Duff
2000-04-02  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-02  0:00                     ` Richard D Riehle
2000-04-02  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
2000-04-02  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
2000-03-28  0:00   ` Dale Stanbrough
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2000-03-21  0:00 dis90072
2000-03-21  0:00 ` Preben Randhol
2000-03-30  0:00   ` Alfred Hilscher
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