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From: Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen <ohk@clustra.com>
Subject: Re: Ada Idioms Progress Preview
Date: 14 Aug 2001 09:37:32 +0200
Date: 2001-08-14T09:37:32+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <umq1ymf5byb.fsf@maestro.clustra.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: zVXd7.109$2u.23585@www.newsranger.com

Ted Dennison<dennison@telepath.com> writes:

> In article <umqr8ug55d9.fsf@maestro.clustra.com>, Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen says...
> >One thing which can be said in favour of having a terminator character
> >is that it frees you from having to store the length explicitly. The
> >length of a string is usually different from the size of the array
> >used to store the string.
> 
> It frees you from that problem in *some* cases. I find that most of the time I
> don't change the string, so I can declare it perfectly sized. When you do that,
> you are not storing the length explicitly, but rather implicitly in the array
> bounds. As others have mentioned, you also don't have to iterate through every
> valid data element to derive this piece of implicit information like you do with
> C. Thus perfectly-sized Ada strings give you the best of both worlds.
> 

But you usually don't need to know the length of the string, precisely
because it has a sentinel value at the end :-)

Perfectly-sized C string are no problems either:

char x[] = "a perfect string";

I was thinking of the case where you cannot statically allocate a
perfectly sized string, which pops up whenever you have to get
variable sized strings from somewhere, as you describe below.

Btw., I'm not saying that C strings are superior in general or trying
to start a war, just that there are cases when using a sentinel value
makes sense.

> Unfortunately, the most notable exception to this is in reading data from
> Text_IO, which is also one of the first things a newbie will want to do with Ada
> strings. :-(
> 
> ---
> T.E.D.    homepage   - http://www.telepath.com/dennison/Ted/TED.html
>           home email - mailto:dennison@telepath.com


-- 
Kabelsalat ist gesund.

Ole-Hj. Kristensen



  reply	other threads:[~2001-08-14  7:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-08-03  4:16 Ada Idioms Progress Preview James Rogers
2001-08-03 19:45 ` Robert Dewar
2001-08-03 22:02   ` James Rogers
2001-08-06 22:33   ` Stanley R. Allen
2001-08-07  2:45     ` tmoran
2001-08-07 12:15       ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-07 13:26         ` Philip Anderson
2001-08-08  2:23         ` Robert Dewar
2001-08-08  5:58           ` Ehud Lamm
2001-08-08  2:19       ` Robert Dewar
2001-08-08 15:13         ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-08 18:03           ` tmoran
2001-08-09 20:36           ` Florian Weimer
2001-08-10 21:02         ` Jay Nabonne
2001-08-10 21:51           ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-13 14:19             ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-13 14:05           ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-13 14:19             ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-13 15:47             ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2001-08-13 16:22               ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-13 18:48               ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-14  7:05                 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2001-08-13 20:20               ` James Rogers
2001-08-14  1:09                 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-14  6:15                   ` James Rogers
2001-08-14 14:03                     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-21  5:54                   ` C strings, was " David Thompson
2001-08-16 18:42                 ` Jay Nabonne
2001-08-17  1:25                   ` Robert Dewar
2001-08-13 21:47               ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-14  7:37                 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen [this message]
2001-08-14 14:59                   ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-14 13:22                 ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-14 15:12                   ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-14 15:33                     ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-14  8:49               ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-08-14  9:38                 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2001-08-14  9:54                   ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-08-14 14:51                     ` James Rogers
2001-08-14 16:44                   ` Darren New
2001-08-14  1:39             ` Slicing ( Ada Idioms Progress Preview ) Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
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