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From: "G.B." <bauhaus@notmyhomepage.invalid>
Subject: Re: Map iteration and modification
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2023 16:03:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ummn4v$s6gr$1@dont-email.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <umm4r5$ppag$1@dont-email.me>

On 29.12.23 10:51, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
> On 2023-12-29 04:20, Randy Brukardt wrote:
>> "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote in message
>> news:umk6ds$e9hc$1@dont-email.me...
>> ...
>>> Provided a sane implementation of map.
>>>
>>> 1. It is safe to loop over the map items in the *reverse* order of,
>>> deleting whatever items.
>>
>> A sane implementation of a map does not have/require an ordering of keys.
> 
> Yes, but iterating a map requires ordering regardless properties of the keys.

Suppose that there is a way of orderly proceeding from one item to the next.
It is probably known to the implementation of map. Do single steps
guarantee transitivity, though, so that an algorithm can assume the
order to be invariable?

At the start of the algorithm, the assumption of order of items implies
an ordered sequence of all the keys. Someone might want to use this known
order for a cache of "index values". It might be the implementation
that does so.

Now some item is removed. The cache is no longer valid...

Insane? Or just tampering? (Randy Brukardt's example demonstrates
the mitigation using Cursor, I think.)


Maybe the bulk operations of some DBMS' programming
interfaces work just like this, for practical reasons.
Ada 202x' Ordered_Maps might want to add a feature ;-)

      procedure Delete (Container : in out Map;
                        From      : in out Cursor;
                        To        : in out Cursor);


  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-29 15:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-28 13:53 Map iteration and modification DrPi
2023-12-28 13:59 ` DrPi
2023-12-28 16:06   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2023-12-28 17:57     ` DrPi
2023-12-29  3:20     ` Randy Brukardt
2023-12-29  9:51       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2023-12-29 15:03         ` G.B. [this message]
2023-12-29 16:52           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2024-01-01 19:27             ` G.B.
2024-01-01 20:55               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2024-01-02 16:40                 ` G.B.
2024-01-02 20:57                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2024-01-03  3:22                 ` Randy Brukardt
2024-01-03  4:05                   ` moi
2023-12-30  7:21         ` Randy Brukardt
2023-12-30 11:07           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2024-01-03  3:15             ` Randy Brukardt
2024-01-03 10:04               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2024-01-04  4:07                 ` Randy Brukardt
2024-01-04 11:28                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2024-01-05  2:00                     ` Randy Brukardt
2024-01-05  9:26                       ` Simon Wright
2024-01-05 11:51                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2024-01-06  7:25                         ` Randy Brukardt
2024-01-07 15:06                           ` Jeffrey R.Carter
2024-01-09  4:46                             ` Randy Brukardt
2024-01-09  5:56                               ` when-clauses (was Re: Map iteration and modification) Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2024-01-09  9:43                               ` Map iteration and modification Jeffrey R.Carter
2024-04-17 10:12                         ` Cóilín Nioclás Pól Glostéir
2024-01-06  2:54                       ` “Usability” (was Re: Map iteration and modification) Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2024-01-06  7:03                         ` "Usability" " Randy Brukardt
2024-01-06  8:14                           ` Niklas Holsti
2024-01-06 23:41                           ` Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2024-01-07  1:21                           ` J-P. Rosen
2024-01-09 15:19                             ` Bill Findlay
2024-01-09 20:30                             ` Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2023-12-29  3:08   ` Map iteration and modification Randy Brukardt
2023-12-29 13:53     ` DrPi
2023-12-30  6:29       ` Randy Brukardt
2023-12-31 13:56         ` DrPi
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