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From: Stephen Leake <Stephe.Leake@nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: Idea of a new Ada website.
Date: 29 Aug 2003 13:14:24 -0400
Date: 2003-08-29T17:16:28+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <uk78wtmhb.fsf@nasa.gov> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Bg13b.7606$v57.1794@nwrdny02.gnilink.net

"Stephane Richard" <stephane.richard@verizon.net> writes:

> Here's my point of view on the project parts.
> 
> 1. The first reason I had to want to do this isn't really a new sourceforge
> lookalike per say.  I'm offering this only as an alternative as far as
> project sources/distributions are concerned.  Maybe some programmers simply
> dont want to go through all the steps and different project management
> methods that are at sourceforge.   

Then it's not a real project. Everything at SourceForge (or Savannah)
is necessary on a real project. Small projects don't need all the
bells and whistles at first, but they can just be ignored, and will be
needed later.

> Maybe they just want a place to put their sources and distributions
> so others can download them and have a "wiki" or something like it
> to keep others informed on their work. 

That's what Savannah is. The Grace project was _very_ simple to set
up; all we needed to do was get ssh cvs working, and set a few admin
parameters. 

I strongly suggest you _try_ setting up a Savannah project before you
decide it's "too hard".

> a lot of users may also have their own version control system at
> home so they can do that part locally and only post a new version
> when they see it fit.

Also not appropriate for a "real project", where there is more than
one developer.

I'm considering moving all my projects to Savannah, so I can share
them between my own several machines more easily.

> 2. As I said in 1. I do plan to offer WIKIs for the projects,
> whether they are hosted on the website or not. Visitors might still
> want to be updated on a given project they know about. 

I'm not clear on the advantages of WIKIs vs what Savannah currently
has; can you list them?

> 3. Without searching in the project tree at sourceforge, have you every
> tried to search for a given type of software, at sourceforge.  

I just searched for "ada" at Savannah. It found several projects
written in Ada (some that I had not known about), including Grace. It
also found some that apparently are not written in Ada. 

Yes, search engines are complex, failure-prone beasts. Using a
separate web site with different software is not the best cure, in my
opinion.

If you really want a separate website, just get a copy of the Savannah
system (it's all Free Software).

-- 
-- Stephe



  reply	other threads:[~2003-08-29 17:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-08-27 11:14 Idea of a new Ada website Lionel.DRAGHI
2003-08-27 12:14 ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-29 17:14   ` Stephen Leake [this message]
2003-08-29 21:39     ` Ludovic Brenta
2003-09-03 15:53       ` Stephen Leake
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-08-27 12:50 Lionel.DRAGHI
2003-08-27 13:39 ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-30 10:51 ` Martin Krischik
2003-08-16 16:38 Stephane Richard
2003-08-16 16:45 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-16 17:00 ` Matthew Heaney
2003-08-16 17:04   ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-16 18:16 ` David Holm
2003-08-17  0:14   ` chris
2003-08-16 18:50 ` Jeffrey Creem
2003-08-16 19:38   ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-18  6:22   ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-17  0:32 ` chris
2003-08-17  9:51   ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-17 11:43     ` David Holm
2003-08-17 11:52       ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-17 11:59         ` David Holm
2003-08-18  6:26       ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-17 10:47 ` Dmitriy Anisimkov
2003-08-17 11:26   ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-30  5:26     ` Randy Brukardt
2003-08-17 18:57 ` David Botton
2003-08-17 19:51   ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-17 19:52     ` Adrian Knoth
2003-08-17 20:01       ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-17 20:08         ` Adrian Knoth
2003-08-17 20:14     ` David Botton
2003-08-17 19:10 ` ISH
2003-08-17 19:31   ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-17 19:42     ` chris
2003-08-17 19:43       ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-17 21:31         ` ISH
2003-08-21  1:02 ` R. Srinivasan
2003-08-21  1:31   ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-21 19:49     ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-26 16:22       ` Martin Krischik
2003-08-28 11:55         ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-30 10:43           ` Martin Krischik
2003-08-30 12:51             ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-29 17:04         ` Stephen Leake
2003-08-21 14:56 ` Isaac Gouy
2003-08-21 19:52   ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-25  2:27     ` tom
2003-08-30  5:34       ` Randy Brukardt
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