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From: Stephen Leake <stephen.a.leake.1@gsfc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: Expected bytes per sloc (semicolons) performance
Date: 24 Sep 2001 13:03:13 -0400
Date: 2001-09-24T17:04:41+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ug09c4j3i.fsf@gsfc.nasa.gov> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3BAB8028.18CCD530@yahoo.com

default <joel_seidman.NOESPAME@yahoo.com> writes:

> Mats Weber wrote:
> > 
> > >Rules about n bytes per sloc are just too processor, compiler, and
> > >coding style dependent to be useful.
> > 
> > I would put a big emphasis on coding style here. If you use a lot of
> > generics, the code will be generated once for each instance in most
> > implementations.
> 
> I agree there is a relation between coding style and bytes/sloc.
> 
> But I don't understand the specific denigration of generics, which I've
> heard occasionally. It seems to me the alternative to generics is
> nearly-duplicate packages and procedures, usually created by brute-force
> cut-and-paste in a text editor. You end up with the same amount of
> object code, but with the disadvantage that it is harder to maintain
> than if you had used generics.
> 
> Is there a flaw in my reasoning?

I didn't get a "denigration of generics" from this. Mats is merely
pointing out that a style that uses generics will have a _much_ higher
number for bytes/sloc than a style that doesn't. This is neither bad
nor good; it's just a fact. It does argue that "bytes/sloc" is not a
useful measure.

It could also be that a particular application domain will lend itself
more to generics than some other domain, independent of programmer
style.

The one reason I have sometimes not used a generic was when the
debugger did not support them. This was true for Alsys Ada, and is
still true for Tartan Ada (both Ada 83). The GNAT debugger supports
generics; I'm not sure of other current compilers.

-- 
-- Stephe



  reply	other threads:[~2001-09-24 17:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-09-18 22:03 Expected bytes per sloc (semicolons) performance Mike Harrison
2001-09-19  0:04 ` Jeff Creem
2001-09-19 10:13   ` Robert Dewar
2001-09-20  0:43     ` David B. Littell
2001-09-20 11:28       ` Steffen Huber
2001-09-20 13:10         ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2001-09-22 14:36           ` David B. Littell
2001-09-20 19:15   ` Mike Harrison
2001-09-21 14:02     ` Stephen Leake
2001-09-21 15:30       ` Mats Weber
2001-09-21 18:00         ` default
2001-09-24 17:03           ` Stephen Leake [this message]
2001-09-25 23:00             ` default
2001-09-25 16:08         ` tmoran
2001-09-25 16:44           ` Wes Groleau
2001-09-25 20:51             ` tmoran
2001-09-25 20:32           ` Stephen Leake
2001-09-25 21:04             ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-26 15:19               ` Stephen Leake
2001-09-26 16:58                 ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-21 16:22     ` Ted Dennison
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