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From: Pascal Obry <p.obry@wanadoo.fr>
Subject: Re: compiler benchmark comparisons (was: naval systems)
Date: 02 Mar 2002 12:12:47 +0100
Date: 2002-03-02T11:12:45+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ug03ji5ow.fsf@wanadoo.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 5ee5b646.0203011129.1bdbac56@posting.google.com


dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) writes:

> Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) wrote in message news:<TgAW8WWqYgP5@eisner.encompasserve.org>...
> 
> > When the tool that generates the makefiles is the 
> > previous run of the C compiler itself, the difference
> > from Ada seems quite small.
> 
> Well it is in practice quite large in most environments. 
> Very few C environments update the makefile on every

And this can be said for many points. In almost all discussions I have with
co-workers about programing languages features, each time I show on advantage
in Ada I got something like "but this is also possible with XYZ language" !

And of course it is possible, everything is possible with every programing
language... The fact is completly different. If the language does not have a
built-in tools to support the feature then it is not addressed. Because the
dead-line is comming, because money, because time... everything that require
some more work to setup the environment, tools is most of the time skipped.

To goes even farther I find the GNAT -gnaty option very nice. You can write
on paper rules about laying out of code and syntax but if the compiler does
not check that who will ????

> So in practice, most Ada programmers find this a significant advantage
> of Ada over C, but of course
> your mileage may vary (after all there is nothing
> that requires an Ada environment to have decent tools,
                   ^^^^ C here I think
> although there is still something that requires it to
> check for inconsistencies, unlike the case with Ada).

In theory there is no difference in theory and practice... in practice 
there are :)

Pascal.

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Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <3C74E519.3F5349C4@baesystems.com>
     [not found] ` <20020221205157.05542.00000012@mb-cm.news.cs.com>
2002-02-22 12:19   ` naval systems David Gillon
2002-02-22 14:55     ` Marin David Condic
2002-02-23  5:54       ` David Starner
2002-02-25 15:05         ` Marin David Condic
2002-02-26  2:34           ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-02-26 17:44           ` David Starner
2002-02-26 19:49             ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-26 19:55               ` Ray Blaak
2002-02-26 20:46                 ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-26 22:41                   ` Ray Blaak
2002-02-27  0:02                     ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-27  5:01                       ` David Starner
2002-02-27  9:38                         ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2002-02-27 19:48                         ` compiler benchmark comparisons (was: naval systems) Wes Groleau
2002-02-27 21:51                           ` Pat Rogers
2002-03-01  2:04                             ` David Starner
2002-03-01  4:06                               ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-27 23:53                           ` Gary Barnes
2002-02-28  2:19                             ` Dan Andreatta
2002-02-28 10:04                               ` Jerry van Dijk
2002-02-28 13:35                               ` compiler benchmark comparisons Georg Bauhaus
2002-02-28 18:12                                 ` Dan Andreatta
2002-03-01  5:07                                   ` Robert Dewar
2002-03-01 16:43                                     ` Dan Andreatta
2002-03-01 23:17                                     ` Dan Andreatta
2002-03-01 23:40                                       ` tmoran
2002-02-28 14:18                               ` compiler benchmark comparisons (was: naval systems) Wes Groleau
2002-02-28 14:31                               ` Ted Dennison
2002-02-28 18:33                                 ` Dan Andreatta
2002-02-28 21:14                                 ` Wes Groleau
2002-02-28 14:01                             ` Wes Groleau
2002-03-01 22:01                               ` Randy Brukardt
2002-02-28 15:58                             ` Larry Kilgallen
     [not found]                             ` <338040f8.0202271819.373f733a@Organization: LJK Software <TgAW8WWqYgP5@eisner.encompasserve.org>
2002-03-01 19:29                               ` Robert Dewar
2002-03-02 11:12                                 ` Pascal Obry [this message]
2002-03-02 19:49                                   ` Richard Riehle
     [not found]                               ` <5ee5b646.0203011129.1bdbac56@po <ug03ji5ow.fsf@wanadoo.fr>
2002-03-02 18:20                                 ` Simon Wright
2002-02-27  2:28                   ` naval systems David Starner
2002-02-27 21:44                     ` Pat Rogers
2002-03-01  2:59                       ` David Starner
2002-03-01 15:33                         ` Pat Rogers
2002-03-01 17:22                       ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-03-03  5:21                         ` David Starner
2002-02-26 22:40                 ` Pascal Obry
2002-02-27  0:42               ` David Starner
2002-02-23 19:18       ` John R. Strohm
2002-02-23 18:36         ` martin.m.dowie
2002-02-25 15:10         ` Marin David Condic
2002-02-28 16:33     ` tony gair
2002-02-28 17:33       ` David Gillon
2002-02-28 21:18       ` Wes Groleau
2002-03-01 17:31       ` Boeing 777 (WAS: naval systems) Simon Pilgrim
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