From: Jon S Anthony <jsa@synquiry.com>
Subject: Re: Papers saying Ada as an overly complex language and hard to implement
Date: 1998/02/16
Date: 1998-02-16T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ufyazbyz32.fsf@synquiry.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 34E8AA02.7ED447E0@cs.utexas.edu
Yongxiang Gao <gyx@cs.utexas.edu> writes:
>
> Robert Dewar wrote:
>
> > be fairly feature rich (Ada 95, C++, Fortran 90, OO COBOL, ...) to be
> > simple to use. Even Java is pretty feature rich, especially if you include
> > its standard libraries.
>
> For a beginner, "rich" comes with "complex to use".
That's not obvious. Indeed, it's probably false.
> > As for "hard to write a compiler for", Ada is no more difficult than
> > any of these other languages. These days the really hard part of any
> > compiler is doing a good job of optimizing the object code on modern
> > architectures, and this is about the same effort for any language.
>
> Who tells you "Ada is no more difficult than any of these other languages"?
> Do you know the stories of Ada implementation in the early 80's?
Those with any clue. BTW, Robert has been intimately involved in
implementing several languages and is probably as familiar with the
issues as anyone in the field.
> > So I don't know if you can find the papers you are looking for, or what
> > you need them for, but papers that meet your criteria are likely to be
> > bogus.
> >
> > (if they exist:-)
>
> You're welcome to offer more constructive information.
IMO, it was pretty much right on target. It may not have been what
you wanted to hear, but hey, facts is facts.
/Jon
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Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1998-02-15 0:00 Papers saying Ada as an overly complex language and hard to implement Yongxiang Gao
1998-02-15 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-16 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1998-02-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-16 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1998-02-17 0:00 ` Andi Kleen
1998-02-17 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1998-02-17 0:00 ` Geert Bosch
1998-02-19 0:00 ` Parsing Ada and C++ Steve Furlong
1998-02-16 0:00 ` Papers saying Ada as an overly complex language and hard to implement Yongxiang Gao
1998-02-16 0:00 ` Ralph Paul
1998-02-16 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1998-02-16 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony [this message]
1998-02-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-16 0:00 ` Yongxiang Gao
1998-02-17 0:00 ` Simon Wright
1998-02-18 0:00 ` Yongxiang Gao
1998-02-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-19 0:00 ` Stanley R. Allen
1998-02-20 0:00 ` Markus Kuhn
1998-02-18 0:00 ` Stanley R. Allen
1998-03-05 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-02-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-18 0:00 ` Yongxiang Gao
1998-02-19 0:00 ` John English
1998-02-22 0:00 ` Luis Espinal
1998-02-22 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-23 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1998-02-24 0:00 ` Jonas Nygren
1998-02-24 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-02-25 0:00 ` Keith Thompson
1998-02-25 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1998-02-20 0:00 ` Markus Kuhn
1998-02-20 0:00 ` Laurent Guerby
1998-03-03 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-03-03 0:00 ` Stanley R. Allen
1998-02-19 0:00 ` Ada's complexity Steve Furlong
1998-02-20 0:00 ` Markus Kuhn
1998-02-17 0:00 ` Papers saying Ada as an overly complex language and hard to implement Joe Gwinn
1998-02-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-18 0:00 ` vonhend
1998-02-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-22 0:00 ` Simon Wright
1998-02-18 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-02-18 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-02-17 0:00 ` Dan Moran
1998-02-18 0:00 ` Joe Gwinn
1998-02-16 0:00 ` nabbasi
1998-02-16 0:00 ` Yongxiang Gao
1998-02-16 0:00 ` nabbasi
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