From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: project euler 26
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2023 21:20:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ud5amn$1jkrc$1@dont-email.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878r9mudvj.fsf@bsb.me.uk>
On 2023-09-04 18:01, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
> "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> writes:
>
>> On 2023-09-04 13:06, Niklas Holsti wrote:
>>> On 2023-09-04 12:19, CSYH (QAQ) wrote:
>>>> I am new to Ada, I know is there a good way to start this program?
>>>> thanks
>>>> https://projecteuler.net/problem=26
>>> First invent/discover the method (algorithm) for solving the problem,
>>> without thinking about the programming language.
>>> I don't think any language has built-in features that would lead to a
>>> direct solution, although some functional language with lazy evaluation
>>> could come close, because such languages can manipulate unbounded
>>> (potentially infinite) sequences of values. Such sequences can be handled
>>> in Ada, too, but with more effort -- they are not "built in" to Ada.
>>
>> Infinite division does not require big numbers, which Ada 22 has, but I
>> wound not use them anyway because the performance would be abysmal.
>>
>> BTW, Ada is perfect for numeric algorithms no need to resort to functional
>> mess... (:-))
>
> Perfect? That's a bold claim!
Ada is a very improved descendant of Algol 60, which was designed to
codify algorithms.
> Mind you, I don't think this problem is really a numerical one in that
> sense. It needs some simple integer arithmetic but then every language
> is perfect for that sort of arithmetic.
That is still all about algorithms (rather than about for example
building abstractions as in the case of OOP)
> Using a functional mess (Haskell) a simple, native solution (i.e. using
> no modules) is only 9 lines long.
Apart from the fundamental inconsistency of functional paradigm:
computing is about transition of states and nothing else; the imperative
languages express solutions, i.e. an algorithm. Functional, and in
general, declarative languages express puzzles.
They remind me a math examination tasks on studying a function. Here is
a definition. Go figure out the properties and behavior...
Or, if you want, functional is like a chess composition: white to move
and checkmate in 4 moves. Challenging, but Ada is about playing chess.
--
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de
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2023-09-04 9:19 project euler 26 CSYH (QAQ)
2023-09-04 11:06 ` Niklas Holsti
2023-09-04 12:39 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2023-09-04 16:01 ` Ben Bacarisse
2023-09-04 19:20 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2023-09-04 20:18 ` Ben Bacarisse
2023-09-04 21:00 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2023-09-04 23:16 ` Ben Bacarisse
2023-09-05 7:23 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2023-09-05 15:18 ` Ben Bacarisse
2023-09-05 17:08 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2023-09-06 1:10 ` Ben Bacarisse
2023-09-06 7:06 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2023-09-06 15:16 ` Ben Bacarisse
2023-09-06 15:54 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2023-09-06 23:32 ` Ben Bacarisse
2023-09-07 9:02 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2023-09-08 1:32 ` Ben Bacarisse
2023-09-08 7:23 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2023-09-09 0:25 ` Ben Bacarisse
2023-09-09 9:32 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2023-09-10 1:20 ` Ben Bacarisse
2023-09-10 8:46 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2023-09-10 19:22 ` Ben Bacarisse
2023-09-11 6:53 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2023-09-11 16:13 ` Ben Bacarisse
2023-09-12 7:17 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2023-09-13 12:24 ` Ben Bacarisse
2023-09-14 6:33 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2023-09-14 14:30 ` Ben Bacarisse
2023-09-08 6:09 ` G.B.
2023-09-08 21:02 ` Ben Bacarisse
2023-09-09 8:13 ` G.B.
2023-09-09 21:04 ` Ben Bacarisse
2023-09-10 9:11 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2023-09-05 17:35 ` moi
2023-09-04 14:23 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2023-09-07 7:31 ` Francesc Rocher
2023-09-15 9:07 ` CSYH (QAQ)
2023-09-19 7:59 ` comp.lang.ada
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