From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Point a beginner in the right direction? Cheap bare-board to run with a RTOS for running ADA
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 14:14:13 +0200
Date: 2013-07-08T14:14:13+02:00 [thread overview]
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On Mon, 08 Jul 2013 12:54:56 +0200, G.B. wrote:
> Non-modern hardware is as cheap as a plastic spoon!
That is why it is not available. Fetch me an i486 board.
> Price is a convincing argument when the effect of the embedded
> system is simple.
Not really. In fact embedded boards are far more expensive than consumer's
boards. An industrial Atom board has the price of a complete PC with ten
times more memory and higher performance.
> If Ada vendors wish to loose all but the market for expensive high
> end systems, then that's their choice.
It is not their choice. It is the board vendors who determine what is in
the BSP. No Ada vendor has the resources to port it on every possible
board.
The picture will change when bare metal vanish. This will inevitably happen
with SBCs. An OS will become standard for most SBCs. This in turn will
pressure the vendors to make hardware more compatible. Then we will have
Ada (and other languages) there.
> (1) Ada gets thrown out as soon as there is a sufficient
> replacement that's cheaper (C with static analysis, say)
Ada already is, in case you didn't notice. And it is not C Ada will have to
compete there, but Java, PHP etc. When the gates will open all mud will
flood the market...
> But then, by the laws of popularity, recruitment and
> language choice will steer away (again!) from expensive, bulky
> Ada.
It is different factors today. I used "bulky" Ada 83 on a 2MB machine.
--
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de
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2013-06-19 7:51 Point a beginner in the right direction? Cheap bare-board to run with a RTOS for running ADA Marcus F
2013-06-19 18:20 ` Point a beginner in the right direction? Cheap bare-board to run with a RTOS for running Ada Jacob Sparre Andersen
2013-06-19 18:59 ` Marcus F
2013-06-19 19:25 ` Marcus F
2013-07-12 20:35 ` Rego, P.
2013-07-12 20:37 ` Rego, P.
2013-07-07 9:16 ` Point a beginner in the right direction? Cheap bare-board to run with a RTOS for running ADA Lucretia
2013-07-07 9:56 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-07 10:58 ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-07 15:00 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-07 16:27 ` Niklas Holsti
2013-07-08 7:43 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-08 10:54 ` G.B.
2013-07-08 12:14 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2013-07-08 12:56 ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-08 14:06 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-08 14:43 ` G.B.
2013-07-08 17:23 ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-08 18:55 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 11:53 ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-09 12:57 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 13:11 ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-09 20:30 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-09 22:23 ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-07-10 8:06 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-10 12:25 ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-10 22:17 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-11 16:58 ` Eryndlia Mavourneen
2013-07-11 22:07 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-08 13:15 ` G.B.
2013-07-08 13:59 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 0:53 ` mjsilva
2013-07-08 20:31 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-08 20:45 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 0:19 ` mjsilva
2013-07-09 0:27 ` mjsilva
2013-07-09 7:51 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 8:33 ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-07-09 9:12 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 11:08 ` G.B.
2013-07-09 12:28 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 14:20 ` G.B.
2013-07-09 15:00 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 23:13 ` Peter C. Chapin
2013-07-09 15:38 ` mjsilva
2013-07-09 19:48 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 20:10 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-09 22:09 ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-07-10 22:21 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-11 6:12 ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-07-11 22:00 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-10 1:31 ` mjsilva
2013-07-10 8:17 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-10 22:39 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-09 13:53 ` Shmuel Metz
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