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From: Stephen Leake <stephen.a.leake.1@gsfc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: [OT] Gnat cross compiling FreeBSD to Win32 ?
Date: 14 May 2002 16:45:56 -0400
Date: 2002-05-14T20:52:32+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <u4rhatq4b.fsf@gsfc.nasa.gov> (raw)
In-Reply-To: slrnae2k0l.4m1.randhol+abuse@kiuk0156.chembio.ntnu.no

Preben Randhol <randhol+abuse@pvv.org> writes:

> On 14 May 2002 12:55:09 -0400, Stephen Leake wrote:
> > Well, I want a _stable_ system, not a _testing_ system. Windows NT is
> > a _stable_ system.
> 
> Debian testing is _stable_ now. I've been using it for 1 year.

Well, apparently "the Debian committee", whoever that is, disagrees
with you; the name is still "testing"!

> > for my taste. The binary install from ACT was much simpler, just
> > not quite as simple as the Windows version.
> 
> Though it may be simple, you must still recompile all your libraries
> like libgtkada asis etc... 

True, but irrelevant. Are you implying that 'apt-get install gnat'
will also update gtkada? I hope not!

> > Neither apt-get nor dselect is as 'user-friendly' as Install
> > Shield when it comes to customizing an installation.
> 
> Please explain.

Well, when was the last time you used Install Shield? On a good
package, it gives you choices about where to install it, which
optional sub-packages to install, which language to use, which help
file formats to install, etc.

Debian apt-get gives no choice for any of these.

> > I'll stick to Debian stable, thank you!
> 
> Well Testing will catch up with you in short time. Actually it was
> sceduled for release 1 May, but was delayed.

Ok, I'll get it when it comes out.

> > Ok. So I have to remember "apt-get" instead of "dselect". And I'm
> 
> If you have such a bad memory I'm surprised you manage to code in the
> first place. ;-) I don't buy it. But then use gnome-apt or some other
> graphical frontend. 

Ok. That was my point; in Windows, you have a standard graphical front
end that makes it fairly easy to find things that you want to install;
just look in your "downloads" directory, and select the file you want.
If I use command-line 'apt-get', there is no such list. If you had
started this by saying "use gnome-apt", rather than by saying "use
apt-get", I'd be more sympathetic.

> Sorry but I have dealt with Debian and windows for years now and
> Debian proves time and time again to be much more easy.

I agree; for the work I really want to do, Debian is better. For
installing packages like Myst and Quicken, Windows (more precisely
Install Shield) is better (and not just because they don't exist for
Linux!).

> When I got my new laptop at work I had a Debian system up and
> running with *all* packages I had on my desktop system in 55 min and
> *one* reboot. Installing Windows took 3 hours (mainly due to network
> driver problems) and then I had to start installing the software
> which took about 5 hours and I guess about 15-20 reboots.

Did you end up with the _same_ set of application software on each
system? I suspect not! 

You also got lucky with Debian; there are far more network driver
cards supported by Windows than by Debian.

-- 
-- Stephe



  reply	other threads:[~2002-05-14 20:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-05-03  3:11 Gnat cross compiling FreeBSD to Win32 ? Robert R. Beaver
2002-05-03  8:57 ` Robert Dewar
2002-05-04 16:12   ` Robert R. Beaver
2002-05-09 16:14   ` David Brown
2002-05-11 15:19     ` Robert R. Beaver
2002-05-11 18:17       ` Pascal Obry
2002-05-11 20:21         ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-12  1:09           ` DPH
2002-05-12  9:50             ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-13 12:56               ` Dave Head
2002-05-12  8:30           ` [OT] " Pascal Obry
2002-05-12  9:20             ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-12 10:29               ` Pascal Obry
2002-05-13 14:33             ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-14  3:51               ` James Ross
2002-05-14  8:14                 ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-14 15:04                   ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-14 15:38                     ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-14 16:55                       ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-14 17:28                         ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-14 17:57                         ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-14 20:45                           ` Stephen Leake [this message]
2002-05-15  3:38                             ` Robert R. Beaver
2002-05-14 10:02                 ` Ingo Marks
2002-05-14 17:06                   ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-14 14:13                 ` Robert Dewar
2002-05-14 15:22                   ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-05-14 14:50                     ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-14 18:32                   ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-14 18:40                     ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-15  2:18                     ` James Ross
2002-05-15 15:32                       ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-14 14:20                 ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-14 18:55                 ` Darren New
2002-05-14 19:37                   ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-15 21:24                     ` Darren New
2002-05-16 14:12                       ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-14 20:00                   ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-04 16:20 ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-04 16:21   ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-05 15:19   ` Robert R. Beaver
2002-05-05 15:11     ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-06  0:48     ` Robert Dewar
2002-05-06  3:44       ` Robert R. Beaver
2002-05-06  9:22         ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-07 21:16       ` Florian Weimer
2002-05-08  3:46         ` Robert Dewar
2002-05-08 14:14         ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-09 17:46           ` Darren New
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