From: Stephen Leake <Stephe.Leake@nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: Problem space (Re: Using Ada for device drivers? (Was: the Ada mandate...))
Date: 12 May 2003 14:27:43 -0400
Date: 2003-05-12T18:43:11+00:00 [thread overview]
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"Alexandre E. Kopilovitch" <aek@vib.usr.pu.ru> writes:
> "Robert I. Eachus" <rieachus@attbi.com> wrote:
> >I think my first deep insight into the implications of Ada programming
> >came in 1983, just after Ada 83 became an ANSI standard. I told someone
> >working on our (Ada) compiler: "No, in Ada you model the problem space,
> >not the solution space." I then excused myself for a minute to write it
> >on my office whiteboard.
>
> I wish that statement will be placed on all major Ada sites, in boldface and
> at the top of their homepages.
I agree it's a good concept.
But push it to the extreme, and people will say we should be
programming in UML, not Ada.
Even in C++ and C, I can program in the problem space. It's not as
easy, but I can do it.
> But that truth should be also considered from the opposite
> direction: if you (your team) can't deal efficiently with problem
> space for any reason (most often because you either aren't familiar
> with the problem area or simply it isn't clear what is problem at
> all in the case) then you should not expect better perfomance using
> Ada.
True.
> Moreover, probably a language, which is used frequently for similar
> applications is a better choice in such a situation, because there
> are chances that some constructs of the language will lead you to
> sufficient solutions, and at least you may find (and recognize!)
> suitable examples.
Libraries and example code I'll give you. Language won't matter that
much. Of course, it really depends on the domain.
> In my view that explains why Ada is (and will be) used relatively
> rarely: because the situations where either problem space is too
> vaguely defined or programmers are insufficiently familiar with the
> problem area constitute vast majority of overall software
> development.
Does that mean UML is equally doomed? The market seems to think not.
--
-- Stephe
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Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-05-12 1:31 Problem space (Re: Using Ada for device drivers? (Was: the Ada mandate...)) Alexandre E. Kopilovitch
2003-05-12 10:08 ` Mário Amado Alves
2003-05-13 21:04 ` Simon Wright
2003-05-12 18:27 ` Stephen Leake [this message]
2003-05-12 18:40 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-05-13 13:27 ` Stephen Leake
2003-05-13 21:07 ` Simon Wright
2003-05-14 0:23 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-05-13 20:35 ` Problem space (Re: Using Ada for device drivers? (Was: the Adamandate...)) Craig Carey
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