new Ada compiler

new Ada compiler

[Andrew Carroll]

Anyone know the status of the new Ada compiler?  Is it called Ada2x?  I
remember reading about it on here before but I didn't keep the mailings from
the past.  Is there a website?  Thanks,

Andrew C.

Re: new Ada compiler

[Preben Randhol]

On 2003-11-20, Andrew Carroll <andrew@carroll-tech.net> wrote:
> Anyone know the status of the new Ada compiler?  Is it called Ada2x?  I
> remember reading about it on here before but I didn't keep the mailings from
> the past.  Is there a website?  Thanks,

Who are making it? Or are you perhaps confusing the new Ada language
version usually referred to as Ada0X or Ada200X etc?


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new Ada compiler

[Andrew Carroll]

> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:23:04 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Preben Randhol <randhol+valid_for_reply_from_news@pvv.org>
> Subject: Re: new Ada compiler
> To: comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org
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[snip]
> Who are making it? Or are you perhaps confusing the new Ada language
> version usually referred to as Ada0X or Ada200X etc?
Hmmm, must be the Ada language version I am thinking of.  Is it Ada0X or
Ada200X?  Any links?

Thanks

Andrew C

Re: new Ada compiler

[Stephen Leake]

"Andrew Carroll" <andrew@carroll-tech.net> writes:

> Hmmm, must be the Ada language version I am thinking of.  Is it Ada0X or
> Ada200X?  

Yes; they are both the same :)

> Any links?

SigAda letters in Sept 2003 has a nice preview of changes under consideration:
http://www.acm.org/sigada/ada_letters/issues/sept2003/index.htm

If you are not a SigAda member (and you should be :), you'll have to
wait a couple more months for this to become publicly available.

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Re: new Ada compiler

[Larry Kilgallen]

In article <uislehlc5.fsf@nasa.gov>, Stephen Leake <Stephe.Leake@nasa.gov> writes:

> SigAda letters in Sept 2003 has a nice preview of changes under consideration:
> http://www.acm.org/sigada/ada_letters/issues/sept2003/index.htm
> 
> If you are not a SigAda member

I was until ACM started spamming me.
 
> you'll have to
> wait a couple more months for this to become publicly available.

It would be better if you posted a caveat about non-working URLs
_Before_ the URL.

Re: new Ada compiler

[Nick Roberts]

Andrew Carroll wrote:

> Anyone know the status of the new Ada compiler?  Is it called Ada2x?  I
> remember reading about it on here before but I didn't keep the mailings from
> the past.  Is there a website?  Thanks,

The new compiler for the AdaOS project is going to be called ECLAT -- 
Experimental Compiler Library and Tools -- and I'm afraid it's still very 
much at the construction stage at the moment.

I think a reasonable estimate at when the first version will be ready is 
2005 or 2006, and it will incorporate the new features of a language 
revision, assuming there is one by then (which now seems likely).

The first target will be IA-32 basic (based on the original Compaq386 PC) 
standalone. This will produce a directly bootable binary image, requiring 
no run time support, but with limitations (e.g. no tasking). Initially, 
there will be almost no optimisations.

More targets and optimisations will be progressively added.

There's no website for ECLAT yet. I'll start a project on SourceForge or 
BerliOS some time in the future.

-- 
Nick Roberts

new Ada compiler

[Andrew Carroll]

> Message: 3
> Date: 20 Nov 2003 14:49:14 -0500
> From: Stephen Leake <Stephe.Leake@nasa.gov>
> Subject: Re: new Ada compiler
> To: comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org
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> "Andrew Carroll" <andrew@carroll-tech.net> writes:
>
> > Hmmm, must be the Ada language version I am thinking of.  Is it Ada0X or
> > Ada200X?
>
> Yes; they are both the same :)

Thank you




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> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:59:36 +0000
> From: Nick Roberts <nick.roberts@acm.org>
> Subject: Re: new Ada compiler
> To: comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org
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[snip]

> The new compiler for the AdaOS project is going to be called ECLAT --
> Experimental Compiler Library and Tools -- and I'm afraid it's still very
> much at the construction stage at the moment.
>
> I think a reasonable estimate at when the first version will be ready is
> 2005 or 2006, and it will incorporate the new features of a language
> revision, assuming there is one by then (which now seems likely).
>
> The first target will be IA-32 basic (based on the original Compaq386 PC)
> standalone. This will produce a directly bootable binary image, requiring
> no run time support, but with limitations (e.g. no tasking). Initially,
> there will be almost no optimisations.
>
> More targets and optimisations will be progressively added.
>
> There's no website for ECLAT yet. I'll start a project on SourceForge or
> BerliOS some time in the future.
>
> --
> Nick Roberts

Just what I wanted to know.  Awesome!!

Re: new Ada compiler

[Marius Amado Alves]

If you have access to the Springer-Verlag's Lecture Notes in Computer
Science series you might want to check out "An Invitation to Ada 2005"
by Pascal Leroy on issue 2655 (year 2003).

Re: new Ada compiler

[Pascal Obry]

Marius Amado Alves <amado.alves@netcabo.pt> writes:

> If you have access to the Springer-Verlag's Lecture Notes in Computer
> Science series you might want to check out "An Invitation to Ada 2005"
> by Pascal Leroy on issue 2655 (year 2003).

Is there an HTML/PDF version of it somewhere ?

Thanks,
Pascal.

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Ada 0Y papers (was: Re: new Ada compiler)

[Dirk Craeynest]

>Marius Amado Alves <amado.alves@netcabo.pt> writes:
>> If you have access to the Springer-Verlag's Lecture Notes in
>> Computer Science series you might want to check out "An Invitation
>> to Ada 2005" by Pascal Leroy on issue 2655 (year 2003).

Pascal Obry  <p.obry@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>Is there an HTML/PDF version of it somewhere ?

Pascal's invited paper was presented at the 8th International
Conference on Reliable Software Technologies - Ada-Europe'2003,
which was held in Toulouse, France, in June this year.

Since many years, the proceedings of the Ada-Europe conferences are
published by Springer in their LNCS series.  Those who can't attend our
conference can order copies directly from Springer both in printed or
in electronic form.  For full information on this year's proceedings:
<http://www.springeronline.com/sgw/cda/frontpage/0,10735,5-0-22-2345048-0,00.html>

The abstract of the "Invitation to Ada 2005" paper is available at
<http://www.springerlink.com/openurl.asp?genre=article&issn=0302-9743&volume=2655&spage=1>
as is the full paper in PDF format.  Downloading the latter requires
registration, though.

Authors are allowed to put their papers on their web site as well.
I have contacted Pascal to see whether that's possible.

Note: an early version of this paper was also printed in the Ada User
Journal, volume 23, number 4, published in December 2002.  Overview
articles with highlights of the language revision process are published
regularly in this Journal.

Incidently, I would urge everyone interested in the future of Ada
to consider indirect membership of the Ada-Europe organization: this
includes among others a subscription to the Ada User Journal, published
4 times a year.  For more info on how to become a member of Ada-Europe
see <http://www.ada-europe.org/join.html>.

I hope this helps.

Dirk Craeynest
Ada-Europe board & Ada User Journal editorial board member
Dirk.Craeynest@cs.kuleuven.ac.be (for Ada-Belgium/Europe e-mail)

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