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From: Ted Dennison <dennison@telepath.com>
Subject: Re: advantages or disadvantages of ADA over pascal or modula
Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 18:16:57 GMT
Date: 2003-01-04T18:16:57+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <tyFR9.111273$Y86.97388@news2.central.cox.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3E171612.E4E2972@t-online.de>

Alfred Hilscher wrote:
> Compared to Modula-2 I see the following disadvantages:
> 
> - No _real_ hidden export. You can define types to be "private" in your
> spec, but if you want change the definition (let's say from a pointer to
> a four byte hash key), you have to change the package spec (= DEFINITION
> MODULE) and then recompile _all_ importing modules (although it's only
> an internal change to your implementation).


Actually, the difference isn't all that great. To make the type hidden 
in Modula-2, it has to be of a type that can fit in a register (numeric 
or pointer). To get the effect with record types, you have to use a 
pointer as the type in the interface. In Ada you can effect the same 
thing with access types by deferring the definition of the object they 
point to into the package body. All you are missing is the ability to do 
something similar with numeric types. Its not really *that* different.




  reply	other threads:[~2003-01-04 18:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-01-03 15:57 advantages or disadvantages of ADA over pascal or modula karl bowl
2003-01-04  2:36 ` Adrian Knoth
2003-01-04 23:12   ` Robert C. Leif
2003-01-05  2:56     ` Ted Dennison
2003-01-05  3:54       ` John R. Strohm
2003-01-06  5:55         ` AG
2003-01-05  9:38           ` John R. Strohm
2003-01-06  1:37             ` advantages or disadvantages of ADA over pascal or modula or oberon was " Robert C. Leif
2003-01-04  2:56 ` Steve
2003-01-04 11:34   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-01-04 17:35     ` Steve
2003-01-04 22:16       ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-01-05 14:12       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-01-04 12:17 ` Gautier
2003-01-04 17:12 ` Alfred Hilscher
2003-01-04 18:16   ` Ted Dennison [this message]
2003-01-05 11:47   ` karl bowl
2003-01-05 18:53     ` Alfred Hilscher
2003-01-05 20:38       ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-01-05 21:03         ` Alfred Hilscher
2003-01-05 21:20           ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-01-05 21:31             ` Alfred Hilscher
2003-01-05 21:47               ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-01-06 14:43                 ` Gautier
2003-01-06 16:21                   ` Alfred Hilscher
2003-01-05 22:57             ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-01-06 21:57           ` karl bowl
2003-01-18 14:14     ` Alfred Hilscher
2003-01-18 15:26       ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-01-19 18:10         ` Alfred Hilscher
2003-01-19 23:42           ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-01-21 19:16           ` Robert A Duff
2003-01-18 21:39       ` John R. Strohm
2003-01-18 21:56         ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-01-18 23:08           ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-01-18 23:16           ` John R. Strohm
2003-01-19  3:36             ` Hyman Rosen
2003-01-19  4:47               ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-01-19  5:47               ` John R. Strohm
2003-01-19  5:50               ` Steve
2003-01-19  4:47             ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-01-19  5:51               ` John R. Strohm
2003-01-19 12:51                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-01-19 16:43                 ` Marin David Condic
2003-01-19 23:26                   ` John R. Strohm
2003-01-21 13:45                     ` Marin David Condic
2003-01-19  6:10             ` Kevin Cline
2003-01-19 18:03               ` Bernd Specht
2003-01-19 16:31             ` Marin David Condic
2003-01-19 12:17         ` Engineers Pay Alan and Carmel Brain
2003-01-21  7:12           ` Kevin Cline
2003-01-21  9:14             ` John R. Strohm
     [not found]             ` <hub1g-vu3.ln1@beastie.ix.netcom.com>
2003-01-22  4:11               ` John R. Strohm
2003-01-22 17:56               ` John R. Strohm
2003-01-19 16:19         ` advantages or disadvantages of ADA over pascal or modula Marin David Condic
2003-01-19 19:08           ` Robert C. Leif
2003-01-19 20:26           ` Dale Stanbrough
2003-01-20  8:22             ` Tor Fredrik Aas
2003-01-21 14:00             ` Marin David Condic
2003-01-19 18:22         ` Alfred Hilscher
2003-01-20 10:35         ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-01-20 21:12           ` John R. Strohm
2003-01-20 15:56       ` karl bowl
2003-01-20 17:39         ` Jerry Petrey
2003-01-20 22:47         ` Alfred Hilscher
2003-01-21 14:55           ` Stephen Leake
2003-01-21 21:55             ` Alfred Hilscher
2003-01-23 17:06               ` Stephen Leake
2003-01-27  4:25                 ` AG
2003-01-26 17:11                   ` Alfred Hilscher
2003-01-21 17:23           ` karl bowl
2003-01-21 21:47             ` Alfred Hilscher
2003-01-05 12:42   ` Gautier
2003-01-05 18:58     ` Alfred Hilscher
2003-01-05 22:28       ` tmoran
2003-01-06 20:33         ` Randy Brukardt
2003-01-07 14:47           ` Alfred Hilscher
2003-01-07 18:56             ` Randy Brukardt
2003-01-08  9:43               ` Alfred Hilscher
     [not found] ` <mji5va.994.ln@beastie.ix.netcom.com>
2003-01-04 22:16   ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-01-07 18:14 ` Martin Klaiber
2003-01-08  9:01   ` Gautier
2003-01-08 11:13     ` Martin Klaiber
2003-01-08 17:25       ` Gautier
2003-01-08 17:52         ` Martin Klaiber
2003-01-10  3:07 ` Richard Riehle
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