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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Copy vector in Ada
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 14:09:47 +0100
Date: 2012-11-07T14:09:47+01:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <trh6v6omvon9$.xacsgpq19lkv.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 509a4dfb$0$6642$9b4e6d93@newsspool2.arcor-online.net

On Wed, 07 Nov 2012 13:03:08 +0100, Georg Bauhaus wrote:

> On 06.11.12 20:47, Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57) wrote:
>> Now, talking about proper naming of things, how would you explain to a
>> student, that sometime “type” must follow the substitution principle, and
>> sometime, it do exactly the opposite?
> 
> The challenge is to explain why the substitution principle is
> a valid commandment:

It is not.

Positive is a legitime subtype of Integer even though violates the LSP.

The valid proposition is that you should not substitute something
non-substitutable, but you cannot enforce that through types. Correctness
cannot be ensured through type checks.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de



  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-07 13:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-31 16:26 Copy vector in Ada katolsster
2012-10-31 16:37 ` Jeffrey Carter
2012-11-02 11:10   ` katarina.l.olsson
2012-11-02 11:19     ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-11-02 22:03       ` Maciej Sobczak
2012-11-02 23:45         ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-11-03  0:15           ` Zhu, Qun-Ying
2012-11-03  3:47             ` Peter C. Chapin
2012-11-03 15:47               ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-11-03 14:34           ` Maciej Sobczak
2012-11-03 15:54             ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-11-03 16:03               ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-11-03 21:57                 ` Maciej Sobczak
2012-11-04  7:25                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-11-04 20:49                     ` Maciej Sobczak
2012-11-05  8:31                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-11-05  8:50                         ` Maciej Sobczak
2012-11-05  9:20                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-11-05 17:22                             ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-11-05 18:42                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-11-05 20:18                                 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-11-05 20:33                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-11-05 21:34                                     ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-11-05 23:45                                       ` Shark8
2012-11-05 23:58                                         ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2012-11-06  2:17                                           ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-11-06  7:28                                             ` Types vs Subtypes (was: Re: Copy vector in Ada) Simon Wright
2012-11-06 11:33                                             ` Copy vector in Ada Georg Bauhaus
2012-11-06 19:47                                               ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-11-06 19:53                                                 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-11-07 12:03                                                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-11-07 13:09                                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2012-11-07 16:17                                                     ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-11-07 16:11                                                   ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-11-07 18:06                                                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-11-07 20:04                                                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-11-07 21:00                                                         ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-11-08  8:31                                                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-11-08  9:58                                                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-11-08 14:28                                                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-11-05 16:30                         ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-11-02 14:10     ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-11-02 15:28       ` Shark8
2012-11-09  6:22         ` Randy Brukardt
2012-11-19 22:37 ` Katarina Olsson
2012-11-19 22:39 ` Katarina Olsson
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