From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Bus error
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 22:07:08 +0200
Date: 2007-06-29T22:06:28+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <tk9ak6o26vr7.15x8n04sjd359.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 4685280c$0$14869$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:44:22 +0200, Georg Bauhaus wrote:
> Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
>> On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 11:35:28 +0200, Duncan Sands wrote:
>>
>>> in Ada 95 you could do
>>>
>>> X : T renames Factory;
>>
>> Yes, you're right. It should be illegal. Semantically it is same as
>>
>> X : Integer renames 1; -- Illegal
>
> I don't think that renaming an object is the same as renaming
> a number literal because the literal isn't declared anywhere.
> Wheras I could say that a returned object is declared as part
> of the function declaration.
Oh, if that is a problem then take this instead:
X : Integer renames -1; -- Still illegal, though not a literal
But clearly your argument is nonsensical, literal is a syntactic element,
of which semantics is as much object as any of any other expression. It
would be a very perverse idea to try to draw a line between literals and
non-literals. Note also that Ada's renaming has conceptually little to do
with objects. Consider:
X : T;
X : T renames X; -- Illegal
though the "object" is obviously same. Same object, same name, what was
wrong?
>> function Very_Positive return Integer is
>> begin
>> return -1;
>> end Very_Positive;
>>
>> Oops : Positive renames Very_Positive; -- This is OK!
>
> So is
>
> if 42 not in Boolean'pos(false) .. Boolean'pos(true) then
> raise Constraint_Error;
> end if;
You missed the point. The renaming in my example shall *not* raise
Constraint_Error. It is a clear language design fault.
Renaming is completely broken in Ada. It creates new objects, it violates
contracts, it introduces names conflicts.
--
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de
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2007-06-29 9:35 ` AW: Bus error Duncan Sands
2007-06-29 12:55 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-06-29 15:37 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-06-29 15:44 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-06-29 20:07 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2007-06-30 1:37 ` Robert A Duff
2007-06-30 8:44 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-06-30 11:52 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-06-30 13:16 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-06-30 14:31 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-06-30 18:07 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-06-30 19:31 ` Robert A Duff
2007-07-01 9:07 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-06-30 15:40 ` Robert A Duff
2007-06-30 17:54 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-07-02 8:01 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2007-07-02 12:00 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-07-02 12:30 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2007-07-02 14:22 ` Robert A Duff
2007-06-30 13:14 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-06-30 14:31 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-06-30 15:34 ` Robert A Duff
2007-07-01 8:34 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-07-01 15:39 ` Robert A Duff
2007-07-01 19:41 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-06-30 15:29 ` Robert A Duff
2007-06-30 17:41 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-06-30 13:31 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-07-02 0:16 ` Robert A Duff
2007-06-29 9:23 AW: " Grein, Christoph (Fa. ESG)
2007-06-29 10:17 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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2007-06-27 14:23 Maciej Sobczak
2007-06-27 15:45 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-06-27 17:19 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-06-28 1:58 ` Robert A Duff
2007-06-28 20:06 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-06-28 21:19 ` Robert A Duff
2007-06-29 8:05 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-06-29 9:42 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-06-29 16:59 ` Adam Beneschan
2007-06-30 12:33 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-06-30 2:02 ` Robert A Duff
2007-06-29 8:04 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-06-27 20:02 ` Anh Vo
2007-06-27 20:48 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-06-28 2:01 ` Robert A Duff
1990-08-27 23:48 BUS ERROR J o s e D u a r t e ! ! !
1990-08-16 14:52 saharbaugh%roo.dnet
1990-08-13 21:11 J o s e D u a r t e !!!
1990-08-10 12:32 bus error saharbaugh%roo.dnet
1990-08-09 14:50 saharbaugh%roo.dnet
1990-08-10 21:38 ` Chuck Peterson
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