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From: Michael Card <thehouseofcards@remove.this.part.mac.com>
Subject: NOACE- End of the road for Ada?
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 02:33:15 GMT
Date: 2005-03-10T02:33:15+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <thehouseofcards-A7CEC0.21331309032005@news.verizon.net> (raw)

Hello everyone-

It seems that everywhere I look, I see articles about the DoD world 
being anxious to purge Ada from all their systems in favor of C++ and 
Java. For example, see

http://www.cotsjournalonline.com/home/article.php?id=100149

This article references the Navy Open Architecture Computing Environment 
(NOACE- love that acronym) which specifically calls for a move away from 
Ada and requires all new software to be done in C++ or Java ("the C++ 
mandate"?)

My question is this: why are so many in the DoD itself and the 
contractors world opposed to Ada? The projects I have been on that used 
Ada got good results out of it in terms of system performance and 
development schedule. In both of these regards, the results were 
generally better than comparable C/C++ projects. So, was my experience 
unique? Were there great Ada failures (huge cost over-runs, bad 
performance, etc) that left such a bad taste in people's mouths that 
even nice products like modern Ada95 compilers are unwelcome?

Also, as Ada is being abandoned in the aerospace industry, is there 
evidence that it is being picked up elsewhere?

-Mike



             reply	other threads:[~2005-03-10  2:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-10  2:33 Michael Card [this message]
2005-03-10  4:33 ` NOACE- End of the road for Ada? Alexander E. Kopilovich
2005-03-10 13:42   ` Michael Card
2005-03-10 21:57     ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-03-11  4:53     ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2005-03-10 21:39   ` Frank J. Lhota
2005-03-12 19:08 ` svaa
2005-03-13  1:59   ` Stephen Leake
2005-03-13 12:44     ` svaa
2005-03-13 14:22       ` Stephen Leake
2005-03-13 14:56         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-13 21:50         ` Dr. Adrian Wrigley
2005-03-13 23:39           ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-03-13 23:20         ` Dr. Adrian Wrigley
2005-03-14  0:25           ` Michael Card
2005-03-14  2:11             ` Ed Falis
2005-03-14  2:29               ` Dr. Adrian Wrigley
2005-03-16  4:49             ` Wes Groleau
2005-03-14  2:22           ` Jeff C
2005-03-13 17:23       ` Marin David Condic
2005-03-13 18:42 ` adaworks
2005-03-13 19:58   ` Peter C. Chapin
2005-03-13 20:14     ` Pascal Obry
2005-03-14  5:13   ` Jared
2005-03-14 13:42     ` Marin David Condic
2005-03-15  0:34       ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2005-03-15 10:52         ` Marin David Condic
2005-03-16  5:15           ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2005-03-16 17:42             ` Marin David Condic
2005-03-17  2:34               ` adaworks
2005-03-17 13:25                 ` Marin David Condic
2005-03-17 15:35                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-18 12:34                     ` Marin David Condic
2005-03-17  4:56               ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2005-03-17 13:56                 ` Marin David Condic
2005-03-18 22:22                   ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2005-03-19 13:43                     ` Marin David Condic
2005-03-17 14:54                 ` Dr. Adrian Wrigley
2005-03-18  1:26                   ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2005-03-30  8:46                 ` jtg
2005-03-15  4:00     ` adaworks
2005-03-16 20:18       ` Robert A Duff
2005-03-17  2:48         ` adaworks
2005-03-17  3:54         ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2005-03-18  2:45           ` adaworks
2005-03-18  3:45             ` Wes Groleau
2005-03-18  8:43               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-18 13:04               ` Robert A Duff
2005-03-18 14:03                 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2005-03-20 13:47       ` Marin David Condic
2005-03-20 17:29         ` adaworks
2005-03-21 13:07           ` Marin David Condic
2005-03-21 13:59             ` Peter Hermann
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