From: spray@convex.com (Rob Spray)
Subject: Re: Critique of SEI's Ada DARK project
Date: 22 May 91 16:58:56 GMT [thread overview]
Message-ID: <spray.674931536@convex.convex.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1991May22.143229.24667@src.honeywell.com
In <1991May22.143229.24667@src.honeywell.com> vestal@SRC.Honeywell.COM (Steve Vestal) writes:
>In article <spray.674858011@convex.convex.com> spray@convex.com (Rob Spray) writes:
>Rob> One concern I have always had about DARK is how it got funded
>Rob> targetted to a processor that is not available in a
>Rob> radiation-hardened configuration. Several embedded systems
>Rob> I am familiar with are required to use full MIL-SPEC processors.
>Does mil-spec mean that a processor must be radiation hardened, or just that
>it be class B, certain temperature range, certain packaging, etc.? "Radiation
>hardened" isn't a yes/no thing; there are several parameters and several
>degrees to radiation hardening. For example, of the two processors cited, I
There's a MIL STD (5400 Class 1? I can't remember) that specifies
hardness, altitude, temperature range etc, etc. It's my understanding
that most air/spaceborne MCCR systems must use processors that meet that
Standard (e.g. Loral(Rolm) Hawks, AN/UYK-xx, ap101, 1750A etc)
>orbit, shuttle or space station in low orbit, and aircraft, all vary. Also,
>this is a systems issue, since one can trade shielding against the radiation
>insensitivity of the circuitry used.
Not always true. Most RFPs specify the Standards to be met.
Shielding non-qualified parts is not always an option.
>There are Ada development environments and executives for rad-hard computer
>systems, but I don't think a high degree of radiation insensitivity is a
>universal requirement on all military systems.
Agreed, but a significant number of systems have that requirement,
so the choice of the 68K for DARK, effectively ignored many issues
faced by builders of such systems.
The 68K has a reasonably orthogonal architecture and good memory
management scheme for distributed processing. From a compiler
writer's view, lessons learned on a VAX transfer to the 68K. So
the 68K had the best Ada environment to implement DARK. (I
suspect that proposing a VAX target would have been even more
unacceptable.) However, there are no rad-hard 68Ks, so technology
transfer of DARK to a significant percentage of the intended systems
is hindered.
--Rob Spray
--spray@convex.com
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Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1991-05-21 19:02 Critique of SEI's Ada DARK project Gregory Aharonian
1991-05-21 20:33 ` Rob Spray
1991-05-22 14:32 ` Steve Vestal
1991-05-22 16:58 ` Rob Spray [this message]
1991-05-24 20:05 ` Edward Hinton
1991-05-29 21:45 ` Tom Griest
1991-05-30 18:03 ` Jim Showalter
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