Empty arrays & libdbusada

Empty arrays & libdbusada

[Ian Clifton]

I’m trying to learn a bit about controlling programs through D-bus. I
can make things happen with the “D-feet” tool, calling methods in
ork.gtk.Actions and org.gtk.Application, supplying empty arrays (notated
as “[]”) for un‐needed parameters. But when I try to do the equivalent
in Ada code using libdbusada, I hit a snag—libdbusada doesn’t seem to be
able to handle empty arrays. Does anyone know of a way round this?
Thanks,
-- 
Ian ◎

Re: Empty arrays & libdbusada

[Reto Buerki]

Hi Ian,

On 2016-06-28, Ian Clifton <ian.clifton@chem.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
> I’m trying to learn a bit about controlling programs through D-bus. I
> can make things happen with the “D-feet” tool, calling methods in
> ork.gtk.Actions and org.gtk.Application, supplying empty arrays (notated
> as “[]”) for un‐needed parameters. But when I try to do the equivalent
> in Ada code using libdbusada, I hit a snag—libdbusada doesn’t seem to be
> able to handle empty arrays. Does anyone know of a way round this?
> Thanks,

Can you please provide a concrete example of what you are trying to do?
What happens if you just remove the empty array arguments?

Thanks!
- reto

Re: Empty arrays & libdbusada

[Ian Clifton]

Reto Buerki <reet@codelabs.ch> writes:

> On 2016-06-28, Ian Clifton <ian.clifton@chem.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
>> I’m trying to learn a bit about controlling programs through D-bus. I
>> can make things happen with the “D-feet” tool, calling methods in
>> ork.gtk.Actions and org.gtk.Application, supplying empty arrays (notated
>> as “[]”) for un‐needed parameters. But when I try to do the equivalent
>> in Ada code using libdbusada, I hit a snag—libdbusada doesn’t seem to be
>> able to handle empty arrays. Does anyone know of a way round this?
>> Thanks,
>
> Can you please provide a concrete example of what you are trying to do?
> What happens if you just remove the empty array arguments?
>
Thanks for replying. At the moment I’m trying to control the play‐back
of a CD using the “Sound Juicer” application on Debian Linux. The
application exposes the “org.gtk.Actions” interface through D-Bus. Using
D-feet, I can toggle playback by calling the “Activate” method with
three arguments:

'play', [], []

i.e. the string 'play' followed by two empty arrays to mark the places
of un‐needed parameters. 

If I omit these placeholders in my Ada code I get:

   raised D_BUS.D_BUS_ERROR : Type of message, '(s)', does not match
   expected type '(sava{sv})'

If I supply empty arrays (uninitialised
D_Bus.Arguments.Containers.Array_Type variables) I get:

   raised D_BUS.D_BUS_ERROR : Serialization error: Array is empty

and if I put either empty strings or nonsense strings into containers of
the expected type, my method calls seem to be passed without error but
are ignored by the application.
-- 
Ian ◎

Re: Empty arrays & libdbusada

[Reto Buerki]

On 2016-06-29, Ian Clifton <ian.clifton@chem.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
> Reto Buerki <reet@codelabs.ch> writes:
>
>> On 2016-06-28, Ian Clifton <ian.clifton@chem.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
>>> I’m trying to learn a bit about controlling programs through D-bus. I
>>> can make things happen with the “D-feet” tool, calling methods in
>>> ork.gtk.Actions and org.gtk.Application, supplying empty arrays (notated
>>> as “[]”) for un‐needed parameters. But when I try to do the equivalent
>>> in Ada code using libdbusada, I hit a snag—libdbusada doesn’t seem to be
>>> able to handle empty arrays. Does anyone know of a way round this?
>>> Thanks,
>>
>> Can you please provide a concrete example of what you are trying to do?
>> What happens if you just remove the empty array arguments?
>>
> Thanks for replying. At the moment I’m trying to control the play‐back
> of a CD using the “Sound Juicer” application on Debian Linux. The
> application exposes the “org.gtk.Actions” interface through D-Bus. Using
> D-feet, I can toggle playback by calling the “Activate” method with
> three arguments:
>
> 'play', [], []
>
> i.e. the string 'play' followed by two empty arrays to mark the places
> of un‐needed parameters. 
>
> If I omit these placeholders in my Ada code I get:
>
>    raised D_BUS.D_BUS_ERROR : Type of message, '(s)', does not match
>    expected type '(sava{sv})'
>
> If I supply empty arrays (uninitialised
> D_Bus.Arguments.Containers.Array_Type variables) I get:
>
>    raised D_BUS.D_BUS_ERROR : Serialization error: Array is empty
>
> and if I put either empty strings or nonsense strings into containers of
> the expected type, my method calls seem to be passed without error but
> are ignored by the application.

Thanks for the detailed description.

Creating an array containing only an empty string should work in this
case. See the D_Bus/Ada notify.adb example where the same is done for
the Notify method of the org.freedesktop.Notifications interface.

Regards,
- reto

Re: Empty arrays & libdbusada

[Ian Clifton]

Reto Buerki <reet@codelabs.ch> writes:

> On 2016-06-29, Ian Clifton <ian.clifton@chem.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
>> Reto Buerki <reet@codelabs.ch> writes:
>>
>>> On 2016-06-28, Ian Clifton <ian.clifton@chem.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>> I’m trying to learn a bit about controlling programs through D-bus. I
>>>> can make things happen with the “D-feet” tool, calling methods in
>>>> ork.gtk.Actions and org.gtk.Application, supplying empty arrays (notated
>>>> as “[]”) for un‐needed parameters. But when I try to do the equivalent
>>>> in Ada code using libdbusada, I hit a snag—libdbusada doesn’t seem to be
>>>> able to handle empty arrays. Does anyone know of a way round this?
>>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Can you please provide a concrete example of what you are trying to do?
>>> What happens if you just remove the empty array arguments?
>>>
>> Thanks for replying. At the moment I’m trying to control the play‐back
>> of a CD using the “Sound Juicer” application on Debian Linux. The
>> application exposes the “org.gtk.Actions” interface through D-Bus. Using
>> D-feet, I can toggle playback by calling the “Activate” method with
>> three arguments:
>>
>> 'play', [], []
>>
>> i.e. the string 'play' followed by two empty arrays to mark the places
>> of un‐needed parameters. 
>>
>> If I omit these placeholders in my Ada code I get:
>>
>>    raised D_BUS.D_BUS_ERROR : Type of message, '(s)', does not match
>>    expected type '(sava{sv})'
>>
>> If I supply empty arrays (uninitialised
>> D_Bus.Arguments.Containers.Array_Type variables) I get:
>>
>>    raised D_BUS.D_BUS_ERROR : Serialization error: Array is empty
>>
>> and if I put either empty strings or nonsense strings into containers of
>> the expected type, my method calls seem to be passed without error but
>> are ignored by the application.
>
> Thanks for the detailed description.
>
> Creating an array containing only an empty string should work in this
> case. See the D_Bus/Ada notify.adb example where the same is done for
> the Notify method of the org.freedesktop.Notifications interface.

Thanks, I’ll investigate when I get a bit more time tomorrow night.
-- 
Ian ◎

Re: Empty arrays & libdbusada

[Ian Clifton]

Ian Clifton <ian.clifton@chem.ox.ac.uk> writes:

> Reto Buerki <reet@codelabs.ch> writes:
>
>> On 2016-06-29, Ian Clifton <ian.clifton@chem.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
>>> Reto Buerki <reet@codelabs.ch> writes:
>>>
>>>> On 2016-06-28, Ian Clifton <ian.clifton@chem.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>>> I’m trying to learn a bit about controlling programs through D-bus. I
>>>>> can make things happen with the “D-feet” tool, calling methods in
>>>>> ork.gtk.Actions and org.gtk.Application, supplying empty arrays (notated
>>>>> as “[]”) for un‐needed parameters. But when I try to do the equivalent
>>>>> in Ada code using libdbusada, I hit a snag—libdbusada doesn’t seem to be
>>>>> able to handle empty arrays. Does anyone know of a way round this?
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Can you please provide a concrete example of what you are trying to do?
>>>> What happens if you just remove the empty array arguments?
>>>>
>>> Thanks for replying. At the moment I’m trying to control the play‐back
>>> of a CD using the “Sound Juicer” application on Debian Linux. The
>>> application exposes the “org.gtk.Actions” interface through D-Bus. Using
>>> D-feet, I can toggle playback by calling the “Activate” method with
>>> three arguments:
>>>
>>> 'play', [], []
>>>
>>> i.e. the string 'play' followed by two empty arrays to mark the places
>>> of un‐needed parameters. 
>>>
>>> If I omit these placeholders in my Ada code I get:
>>>
>>>    raised D_BUS.D_BUS_ERROR : Type of message, '(s)', does not match
>>>    expected type '(sava{sv})'
>>>
>>> If I supply empty arrays (uninitialised
>>> D_Bus.Arguments.Containers.Array_Type variables) I get:
>>>
>>>    raised D_BUS.D_BUS_ERROR : Serialization error: Array is empty
>>>
>>> and if I put either empty strings or nonsense strings into containers of
>>> the expected type, my method calls seem to be passed without error but
>>> are ignored by the application.
>>
>> Thanks for the detailed description.
>>
>> Creating an array containing only an empty string should work in this
>> case. See the D_Bus/Ada notify.adb example where the same is done for
>> the Notify method of the org.freedesktop.Notifications interface.
>
> Thanks, I’ll investigate when I get a bit more time tomorrow night.

I believe I might have solved this problem now. Firstly, I found out how
to generate “variant” values in the D-feet tool (you use an expression
like GLib.Variant('b', False) to create the Boolean value false in a
variant container), this was a great help as it allowed me to learn a
lot more about D-Bus just through experimentation. Then I decided I ought
to be using the SetState method instead of Activate. Finally it turns
out that using the value 0 (i.e., not even an array!) as a placeholder
for the “platform_data” parameter seems to work fine. I haven’t tried
this in my Ada code yet (it’s on a different machine), but I’ve a
feeling I can get it to work now—thanks for your help!
-- 
Ian ◎