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From: Natasha Kerensikova <lithiumcat@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Parser interface design
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 16:13:30 +0000 (UTC)
Date: 2011-04-12T16:13:30+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <slrniq8uha.2fnq.lithiumcat@sigil.instinctive.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: m2wrj4tsz1.fsf@pushface.org

Hello,

On 2011-04-08, Simon Wright <simon@pushface.org> wrote:
> Natasha Kerensikova <lithiumcat@gmail.com> writes:
>
>>> Don't see what's wrong with providing a No_Op function which returns its
>>> input unchanged? unless you do something specific for a null?
>>
>> Yes, as I said in my reply to Dmitry, I thought of disabling in the
>> parser the feature associated to a callback set to null. In the
>> "foo *bar* baz" example I provided, using a No_Op for Emphasis would
>> result in "<p>foo  baz</p>", while disabling the emphasis feature means
>> considering the star as an inactive character, resulting in
>> "<p>foo *bar* baz</p>".
>
> I had in mind more that using my No_Op (I think it was Georg who used
> the better name Identity) would result in "<p>foo bar baz</p>".

Indeed, and this is *not* the result I want: if the star is supposed to
be a character like any other (and not the indicator of emphasis), then
it should be in the result too: "<p>foo *bar* baz</p>".

> In other words, HTML.Emphasize ("bar") would return "<b>bar</b>", but
> No_Op ("bar") would just return "bar".

And that's exactly why disabling emphasis should be done on the parser
level: the callback only has the semantic information ("render bar
emphasized") without any knowledge of how it was obtained (the source
could have been "foo *bar* baz" or "foo _bar_ baz"). Therefore no
callback can reconstruct the intact input.


Natasha



  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-12 16:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-06 10:11 Parser interface design Natasha Kerensikova
2011-04-06 12:17 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-04-07 18:56   ` Natasha Kerensikova
2011-04-08 11:49     ` Stephen Leake
2011-04-06 12:20 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-04-07 19:14   ` Natasha Kerensikova
2011-04-07 20:31     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-04-08 13:51       ` Natasha Kerensikova
2011-04-08 14:21         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-04-12 15:58           ` Natasha Kerensikova
2011-04-12 17:14             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-04-06 15:51 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-04-07 19:44   ` Natasha Kerensikova
2011-04-07 20:52     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-04-07 22:09     ` Simon Wright
2011-04-08 14:03       ` Natasha Kerensikova
2011-04-08 19:06         ` Jeffrey Carter
2011-04-08 19:59         ` Simon Wright
2011-04-12 16:13           ` Natasha Kerensikova [this message]
2011-04-12 17:22             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-04-12 19:02               ` Simon Wright
2011-04-13  8:20                 ` Natasha Kerensikova
2011-04-13  8:37                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-04-13 11:06                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-04-13 12:46                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-04-13 22:33                   ` Randy Brukardt
2011-04-14  6:55                     ` Natasha Kerensikova
2011-04-15  0:22                       ` Randy Brukardt
2011-04-12 21:54               ` Randy Brukardt
2011-04-07 22:13     ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-04-08 15:30       ` Natasha Kerensikova
2011-04-07  0:36 ` Randy Brukardt
2011-04-08 11:16 ` Brian Drummond
2011-04-19  9:08 ` Natasha Kerensikova
2011-04-19 12:35   ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-04-20 10:44     ` Brian Drummond
2011-04-19 17:28   ` Jeffrey Carter
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