From: Preben Randhol <randhol+abuse@pvv.org>
Subject: Re: A Customer's Request For Open Source Software
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 09:27:47 +0000 (UTC)
Date: 2003-08-26T09:27:47+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <slrnbkm9uv.29i.randhol+abuse@kiuk0152.chembio.ntnu.no> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 4Jy2b.939$zL2.310@nwrdny01.gnilink.net
Stephane Richard wrote:
> And to that, I have to agree. A good user interface (in today's business
> world) is just as important than good functionality. Let's face it,
> business users today just dont want to have to do Shift-Ctrl-Alt-F4 to get
> something to print. they wanna click the file menu, then print. Or they
> want to push that little button with the Printer drawn on it. It's been my
> professional experiences. Some hard core users like to have that complicate
> key combo.
Well. Consider this. You have a nice shiny GUI and you have 200 new
student that should be registered in a database. You have gotten a file
of names and ids etc... So what do you do? Yes you print the file and
sit and click-i-click for a couple of days to get them all in. Wereas if
you had a non GUI interface you could easily script it to take 5 min.
What I'm saying is that a GUI is everything and it is certainly not the
best interface always.
As to the printing; you need both! You need both a shortcut and a
icon/menu. Because using the keyboard is much faster than reaching for
the mouse all the time. I mean consider making a program for editing
text without Ctrl-C, Ctrl-X, Ctrl-V or equivalent shortcuts and you get
my meaning.
> To me it's a question of balancing the two. You can't give 600 features on
> a screen because the screen gets cluttered beyond usability. If you take
> these 600 and split them into Tabs (which looks quite nice) then other users
> will complain there's just too many steps to getting at the end. so do you
> cut 600 features down to 400? Other users will complain that it lacks
> features then. :-)...It's hard to balance the functional / usability ratio
> but I think it can still be done....First of my example is exagerated, 600
> features is a lot for a screen of any design. At that point you can usually
> put part of that into somekind of preferences that can be setup during the
> installation for example so they still have it, but dont havfe to bother
> with it unless then want to change it permanently.
A really good GUI interface (I have seen some of these lately) should
have these choices:
I'm a computer illiterate
I'm a normal user
I'm an expert user.
If you choose the first you get simple menus and a limit set of options
that are most useful. As you choose a higher level more options are
presented.
--
�I think fish is nice, but then I think that rain is wet.
So who am I to judge.�
- The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy (radioplay)
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2003-08-21 12:35 A Customer's Request For Open Source Software Marin David Condic
2003-08-21 12:46 ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-22 12:32 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-22 13:38 ` David Holm
2003-08-22 14:33 ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-22 16:40 ` David Holm
2003-08-23 13:18 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-25 8:27 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-25 20:50 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-26 1:28 ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-26 9:27 ` Preben Randhol [this message]
2003-08-26 17:06 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-26 12:51 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-26 18:25 ` Wes Groleau
2003-08-27 10:05 ` Dave Head
2003-08-27 12:11 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-27 19:45 ` [off-topic] military medicine Wes Groleau
2003-08-30 17:33 ` A Customer's Request For Open Source Software Jan Kroken
2003-09-01 10:03 ` Preben Randhol
2003-09-17 18:21 ` Jan Kroken
2003-08-22 16:46 ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-08-22 17:09 ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-22 18:03 ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-08-25 8:33 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-23 13:05 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-30 5:58 ` Adrian Hoe
2003-08-30 11:09 ` Stephane Richard
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2003-08-31 18:28 ` Christopher Browne
2003-09-02 15:44 ` Adrian Hoe
2003-08-30 13:18 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-21 20:46 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-21 21:12 ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-22 20:26 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-22 3:09 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-08-22 12:45 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-22 20:46 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-22 12:37 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-22 18:59 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-22 20:59 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-23 13:24 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-25 19:35 ` Brien
2003-08-25 8:52 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-25 16:32 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-26 9:19 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-26 21:01 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-27 5:15 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-21 22:53 ` David Holm
2003-08-21 23:11 ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-22 0:04 ` David Holm
2003-08-22 0:17 ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-22 0:19 ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-22 17:49 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-08-22 20:56 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-23 2:29 ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-08-24 2:54 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-08-24 3:11 ` Matthew Heaney
2003-08-24 14:57 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-24 16:31 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-08-25 12:37 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-25 14:08 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-08-25 21:07 ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-08-26 18:34 ` Christopher Browne
2003-08-27 12:21 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-27 13:37 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-28 22:04 ` chris
2003-08-29 1:02 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-08-29 10:46 ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-08-29 21:15 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-08-29 16:10 ` Jon S. Anthony
2003-08-30 19:01 ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-08-30 22:57 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-08-31 23:04 ` Alexander Kopilovitch
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2003-09-01 21:22 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-09-02 2:12 ` Christopher Browne
2003-09-02 4:16 ` Ludovic Brenta
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2003-09-02 19:52 ` Charlie Spitzer
2003-09-03 2:18 ` Robert I. Eachus
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2003-09-12 17:49 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-09-13 5:49 ` Edward Rice
2003-09-13 18:59 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-09-12 20:45 ` Christopher Browne
2003-09-02 16:16 ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-09-03 2:36 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-09-01 21:44 ` Larry Kilgallen
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2003-09-03 3:02 ` Robert I. Eachus
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2003-09-04 7:19 ` olehjalmar kristensen - Sun Microsystems - Trondheim Norway
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2003-09-03 12:38 ` Larry Kilgallen
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2003-08-31 2:35 ` Robert I. Eachus
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2003-08-23 1:47 ` jim hopper
2003-08-23 1:47 ` Ludovic Brenta
2003-08-25 9:12 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-25 8:59 ` Preben Randhol
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