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From: lutz@iks-jena.de (Lutz Donnerhacke)
Subject: Re: 64-bit integers in Ada
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 07:31:55 +0000 (UTC)
Date: 2002-08-02T07:31:55+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <slrnakkdbb.ou.lutz@taranis.iks-jena.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: aibbr8$4ie$1@nh.pace.co.uk

* Marin David Condic wrote:
>Its been a while since I've seen a C compiler for a 6502, but my
>recollection is that the last one I did look at had 16 bits for the type
>int. Please correct me if I'm wrong here - have you seen C compilers for
>this target using 8 bits for the type int?

The only C-Compiler for the C64 has a 16bit int, because it's required by
the language (at least now).

>My thinking here is that even for guys programming small computers, an int
>or Integer being required to support at least 16 bits, is a useful
>constraint even if it has to be simulated with software.

Ack for C, nack for Ada. Ada has the ability to specify the type ranges you
need. C hasn't.

>That's why I wouldn't object to the standard requiring that an
>implementation support at least 16 bits - even for small machines. People
>expect it.

No. Ada people expect to define there own types if they need certain ranges.
They expect efficient implementations for those types.

>Going the other direction (requiring support for 64 bits or 128
>bits or unlimited bits) is a different situation in that this might become
>an unreasonable burden on a compiler for a small target. (I'd certainly
>consider it desirable that it be "permissable" - just not "required")

It would be fine the have a minimum requirement for the user defined ranges.
"type uint64 is mod 2**64;" is still a portability problem.



  reply	other threads:[~2002-08-02  7:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-05-16 11:27 64-bit integers in Ada David Rasmussen
2002-05-17  2:28 ` Robert Dewar
2002-05-17 13:56 ` Mark Johnson
2002-07-29 15:33 ` Victor Giddings
2002-07-29 20:15   ` Robert A Duff
2002-07-30 18:35     ` Richard Riehle
2002-07-30 20:20       ` Robert A Duff
2002-07-31  0:13       ` Robert Dewar
2002-07-31  4:17         ` Keith Thompson
2002-07-31  8:41           ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-07-31 13:20           ` Robert A Duff
2002-07-31 13:42             ` Marin David Condic
2002-08-01  7:54               ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2002-08-01 13:07                 ` Marin David Condic
2002-08-02  7:31                   ` Lutz Donnerhacke [this message]
2002-08-02 13:21                     ` Marin David Condic
2002-08-03 12:24                       ` Robert Dewar
2002-08-03 18:59                         ` Richard Riehle
2002-08-04  6:12                           ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-08-04 14:07                           ` Robert Dewar
2002-08-05  2:28                             ` Richard Riehle
2002-08-11 15:32                               ` Simon Wright
2002-08-13 21:14                             ` Randy Brukardt
2002-08-04 18:00                           ` Larry Kilgallen
     [not found]                           ` <5ee5b646.0208040607.ebb6909@posting.googOrganization: LJK Software <PG2KS5+doDWm@eisner.encompasserve.org>
2002-08-05  1:44                             ` Robert Dewar
2002-08-05  1:48                             ` Robert Dewar
2002-08-05 11:40                               ` Marc A. Criley
2002-08-05 14:40                                 ` Pat Rogers
2002-08-05  2:34                             ` Richard Riehle
2002-08-11 21:56                           ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-13 21:09                         ` Randy Brukardt
2002-08-18  1:01                           ` AG
2002-08-20  0:15                             ` Robert Dewar
2002-08-02  8:37                   ` Fraser Wilson
2002-08-02 12:54                   ` Frank J. Lhota
2002-08-01 11:57               ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-08-01 17:53               ` Ben Brosgol
2002-08-01 20:32               ` Keith Thompson
2002-07-31 21:50             ` Keith Thompson
2002-07-31 21:59               ` Robert A Duff
2002-07-30  4:29   ` Robert Dewar
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