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From: randhol+abuse@pvv.org (Preben Randhol)
Subject: Re: Off Topic: NMD/Environment was: (Re: Ada and the NMD)
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 08:56:34 +0000 (UTC)
Date: 2001-09-07T08:56:34+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <slrn9pha3v.ao.randhol+abuse@kiuk0156.chembio.ntnu.no> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3B98227B.EEFA4336@worldnet.att.net

On Fri, 07 Sep 2001 01:27:07 GMT, James Rogers wrote:
> It is clear that CO2, in the absence of other factors, does lead to
> increased temperatures. It is not clear just how water vapor 
> interacts with CO2 levels. Some models simply assume no interaction.

Also the sun seems to be contributing more energy to the earth now.

> Those models are clearly over simplified. Some models show that
> water vapor and CO2 work to balance the temperature of the Earth.
> As CO2 levels increase they cause more evaporation from the oceans.
> This in turn results in more clouds, rain, and severe storms, which
> tend to cool the atmosphere. The increased rains also tend to dissolve
> large quantities of CO2 as carbonates. Those carbonates react with
> rocks and soils, creating carbonate salts, which removes CO2 from
> the atmosphere.

Yes, you get H2CO3, HCO3- and CO32-. The latter can react with say Mg2+,
Ca2+, Sr2+ etc to form carbonate salts. The more basic the solution is
the more CO32- you have. The more CO2 you have in your water the more
acidic it is (so less CO32-). Anyhow this will not be a big effect on CO2.

Another problem is that a huge amount of CO2 is dissolved the ocean. If
one gets a hotter earth the tempereature in the sea would rise and CO2
will be released (as water dissolves more gas at lower temperatures)
into the atmosphere.

But this if off topic. I'll stop now.

What I would rather see is that they make a good climat model in Ada
than Ada in NMD :-)

Preben Randhol



  reply	other threads:[~2001-09-07  8:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-09-06  4:53 Ada and the NMD Al Christians
2001-09-06 10:27 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-09-06 11:55   ` Florian Weimer
2001-09-06 18:03     ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-09-07 19:31       ` Florian Weimer
2001-09-06 11:13 ` Preben Randhol
2001-09-06 13:57   ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-06 15:11     ` Preben Randhol
2001-09-06 15:27       ` James Rogers
2001-09-06 16:25         ` Off Topic: NMD/Environment was: (Re: Ada and the NMD) Marin David Condic
2001-09-06 17:57           ` chris.danx
2001-09-06 18:52             ` Darren New
2001-09-06 19:35               ` chris.danx
2001-09-06 20:01                 ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-06 21:43               ` Preben Randhol
2001-09-06 21:46                 ` Darren New
2001-09-06 22:13                   ` Preben Randhol
2001-09-07  0:28                     ` Jeff Creem
2001-09-07  8:42                       ` Preben Randhol
2001-09-07  1:27                     ` James Rogers
2001-09-07  8:56                       ` Preben Randhol [this message]
2001-09-07 13:43                     ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-07 16:10                       ` James Rogers
2001-09-10 14:57                         ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2001-09-07 13:45                   ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-07 16:06                     ` Darren New
2001-09-08  1:59                       ` Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
2001-09-10 14:48                       ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-10 15:15                       ` Leif Roar Moldskred
2001-09-08 16:35                     ` Larry Elmore
2001-09-10 14:35                       ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-10 23:01                         ` Larry Elmore
2001-09-07 13:38                 ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-06 18:56             ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-08  0:38               ` Larry Elmore
2001-09-06 17:59         ` Ada and the NMD Ted Dennison
2001-09-06 19:39           ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-09-06 20:15             ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-06 21:31               ` WAY OFF TOPIC was: " Marin David Condic
2001-09-07 14:12                 ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-07 16:25                 ` Robert Dewar
2001-09-06 20:34           ` James Rogers
2001-09-06 21:02             ` OT: US Green politics (was: Ada and the NMD) Ted Dennison
2001-09-07  2:06               ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
2001-09-07 13:59                 ` Off Topic " Marin David Condic
2001-09-07 16:19             ` Ada and the NMD Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-09-10 14:53               ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-06 22:04           ` Preben Randhol
2001-09-07 14:29             ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-08  0:54             ` Larry Elmore
2001-09-06 17:21       ` Dale Pennington
2001-09-06 21:54         ` Preben Randhol
2001-09-10  5:51         ` Richard Riehle
2001-09-10 20:57           ` David Bolen
2001-09-10 21:31             ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-10 21:36             ` Steve Howard
2001-09-06 17:31       ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-09 11:53         ` Stefan Skoglund
2001-09-06 12:27 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-09-06 16:34 ` William Dale
2001-09-06 19:20 ` Ada in air/missile defense systems (was: Ada and NMD) Michael P. Card
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2001-09-07 18:27 Off Topic: NMD/Environment was: (Re: Ada and the NMD) Beard, Frank
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