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From: aidan@skinner.demon.co.uk (Aidan Skinner)
Subject: Re: The future of Ada
Date: 1999/03/29
Date: 1999-03-29T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <slrn7g00n6.id.aidan@skinner.demon.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 36FFAC73.F8B69D31@nospam.lmco.com

On Mon, 29 Mar 1999 11:38:11 -0500, Steve Quinlan
<steven.quinlan@nospam.lmco.com> wrote: 

>Aidan Skinner wrote:
>
>> On 27 Mar 1999 10:45:06 -0800, west@nospam <west@nospam> wrote:
>>
>> >Second, Java comes with packages and API's to do almost anything
>>
>> I'm working on these for Ada.

>But,  you are only working on a subset, the work you are doing is not part of

At the moment yes, but hopefully it'll expand to the point where
there's most of the useful/relevant bits.

>compiler with support, and what is there is only advertised as working on Linu

No, but if people want suppourt contracts for it, then they could
always talk to me. ;) </wildly optimistic>

>I know, they SHOULD work with little modification elsewhere. Great for freewar

Currently all of Gliba.* should compile cleanly on any OS where
there's an Ada compiler. Any Linux specific portions will almost
inevitably be those using Florist, so even then porting them will be a
case of having a version of Florist with (at least) the necessary bits working.

>users, bad for what we was being talked about here -- level of penetration of
>Ada in the general commercial marketplace.

Depends, the copyright Gliba is under means that other people can
provide commercial suppourt if they want it too, and any body can use
the librarys in their propreity apps without problems.

>The very fact that Java is so new, yet has all these great libraries and that

Java has these librarys because Sun sat down and thought "what do we
need to provide to ensure massive market penetration in a short time?"
and then paid for people to develop them. Ada hasn't, AFAIK, ever been
concertedly marketed like this or even had the level of financial
backing that Java has had since it's launch.

>I think what you are doing is good, but to trumpet it as an "equalizer" betwee
>Ada and Java in terms of library funtionality is a bit much.

Hey, it might work. ;)

- Aidan
-- 
"Every time I see her I want to geek..."
"I say geek. If she runs then it was never meant to be. But if you talk
about routers, TCP/IP and programming and she stays, she's yours until the
counter flips" 





  reply	other threads:[~1999-03-29  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-03-10  0:00 The future of Ada Gordon Dodrill
1999-03-10  0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-03-10  0:00   ` dennison
1999-03-10  0:00 ` dewar
1999-03-10  0:00 ` Al Christians
1999-03-10  0:00   ` dewar
1999-03-10  0:00 ` robert_dewar
1999-03-10  0:00 ` dennison
1999-03-10  0:00   ` Corey Ashford
1999-03-10  0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1999-03-10  0:00   ` Tom Moran
1999-03-11  0:00   ` Steve O'Neill
1999-03-11  0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1999-03-11  0:00   ` Tucker Taft
1999-03-11  0:00 ` Michael Garrett
1999-03-12  0:00   ` vershokv
1999-03-26  0:00   ` John McCabe
1999-03-26  0:00     ` Mike Silva
1999-03-27  0:00       ` west
1999-03-27  0:00         ` mjsilva
1999-03-27  0:00           ` west
1999-03-27  0:00             ` Chad R. Meiners
1999-03-27  0:00             ` mjsilva
1999-03-28  0:00             ` Aidan Skinner
1999-03-29  0:00               ` Steve Quinlan
1999-03-29  0:00                 ` Aidan Skinner [this message]
1999-03-30  0:00                   ` Ed Falis
1999-03-29  0:00                 ` robert_dewar
1999-03-30  0:00                   ` SpamSpamSpam
1999-03-30  0:00                     ` bourguet
1999-03-30  0:00                       ` SpamSpamSpam
1999-03-30  0:00                     ` Matthew Heaney
1999-03-30  0:00                       ` Jerry van Dijk
1999-03-30  0:00                     ` robert_dewar
1999-03-30  0:00                       ` SpamSpamSpam
1999-03-30  0:00                         ` Stephen Thomas
1999-03-30  0:00                         ` dewar
1999-03-31  0:00                           ` SpamSpamSpam
1999-03-31  0:00                             ` robert_dewar
1999-04-02  0:00                           ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-03-31  0:00           ` west
1999-04-01  0:00             ` Steve Doiel
1999-04-02  0:00               ` dennison
1999-04-02  0:00                 ` Tom Moran
1999-04-02  0:00                   ` kewick
1999-04-02  0:00                     ` Tom Moran
1999-04-05  0:00                       ` Stephen Leake
1999-04-03  0:00                     ` Tom Moran
1999-04-01  0:00             ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-03-27  0:00         ` robert_dewar
1999-03-27  0:00         ` John McCabe
1999-03-27  0:00           ` west
1999-03-28  0:00             ` John McCabe
1999-04-16  0:00               ` s.shering
1999-03-27  0:00           ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-03-28  0:00         ` Tom Moran
1999-03-28  0:00         ` Aidan Skinner
1999-03-27  0:00     ` Aidan Skinner
1999-03-28  0:00     ` David Botton
1999-03-11  0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1999-03-11  0:00   ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-03-11  0:00     ` Scott Ingram
1999-03-11  0:00       ` Marin David Condic
1999-03-11  0:00         ` Scott Ingram
1999-03-12  0:00         ` Gunther Dragoski
1999-03-12  0:00           ` Chris Morgan
1999-03-12  0:00             ` Dino Gianisis
1999-03-13  0:00               ` Olivier Devuns
1999-03-12  0:00                 ` Chris Morgan
1999-03-11  0:00     ` Richard D Riehle
1999-03-11  0:00       ` Stanley R. Allen
1999-03-11  0:00         ` kirk
1999-03-12  0:00           ` Jerry Petrey
1999-03-12  0:00           ` Mike Silva
1999-03-12  0:00         ` Richard D Riehle
1999-03-12  0:00           ` Stanley R. Allen
1999-03-15  0:00         ` Marin David Condic
1999-03-12  0:00       ` Chris Morgan
1999-03-12  0:00         ` steve
1999-03-12  0:00           ` Joseph P Vlietstra
1999-03-15  0:00             ` Mark D. McKinney
1999-03-13  0:00           ` Chris Morgan
1999-03-14  0:00           ` robert_dewar
1999-03-12  0:00         ` Richard D Riehle
1999-03-12  0:00           ` Chris Morgan
1999-03-11  0:00     ` Marin David Condic
1999-03-11  0:00       ` Mike Silva
1999-03-15  0:00         ` Marin David Condic
1999-03-21  0:00           ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-03-22  0:00             ` Mike Silva
1999-03-22  0:00               ` Gisle S�lensminde
1999-03-23  0:00                 ` Marin David Condic
1999-03-23  0:00                 ` Marin David Condic
1999-03-23  0:00                   ` Chris Morgan
1999-03-22  0:00             ` Marin David Condic
1999-03-26  0:00             ` R. Rabeau
1999-03-26  0:00               ` Mike Silva
1999-03-12  0:00     ` Steve Whalen
1999-03-12  0:00   ` Al Christians
1999-03-12  0:00 ` Andreas Winckler
1999-03-12  0:00 ` Gordon Dodrill
1999-03-12  0:00   ` robert_dewar
1999-03-12  0:00   ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-03-13  0:00   ` Nick Roberts
1999-03-15  0:00     ` Marin David Condic
1999-03-13  0:00   ` Corey Ashford
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1990-08-15 18:49 The Future " Edward V. Berard
1990-08-15 23:05 ` Michael Endrizzi 
1990-08-15 15:19 Michael Endrizzi 
1990-08-15 17:52 ` Jerry Callen
1990-08-17 17:21   ` Steve Vestal
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