From: Brian May <bam@snoopy.apana.org.au>
Subject: Re: Would You Fly an Airplane with a Linux-Based Control System?
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:36:19 +1100
Date: 2004-11-23T09:36:19+11:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <sa48y8tv7do.fsf@snoopy.apana.org.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 0UCrFDGa5NAr@eisner.encompasserve.org
>>>>> "Simon" == Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> writes:
Simon> randhol@bacchus.pvv.ntnu.no (Preben Randhol) writes:
>> See:
>> http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/blog.asp?blogID=1654&trk=blog
Interesting article.
Linux was never designed for mission critical, life dependant
applications. Nor was it designed to be easy to audit for such
purposes. Linux has other design criteria. I don't think this is any
secret.
However, the article seems to be getting various issues confused. For
example:
* yes, the kernel has a huge number of lines in total. Now delete all
the lines for other architectures, delete all lines for drivers not
required, and count again; I think you will end up with a
significantly smaller number.
* number of switches to "ls" seems irrelevant, I don't think any of
these systems would need ls. Even if ls was required, it would be
easy to write a cut down version that just has the required
operations.
* IMHO if open source software was designed from the ground up to be
used in mission critical applications, by people who know what they
are doing, then just because these people may be volunteers doesn't
mean it cannot be trusted.
* security issues can be related to bugs that are life threatening,
but not always. Security issues are when somebody deliberately and
intensionally attempts to break something. On the other hands,
people involved with aircraft, generally speaking, want the aircraft
to stay in the air. I would be kind of alarmed if any Fly-By-Wire
computer system had an Internet connection... There are lots of ways
of sabotaging an aircraft, you don't have to use software for that.
Simon> I recommend that Ada advocates with high blood pressure not
Simon> read page 21 of the PDF, especially the last line. :-)
"Pilot (driver, walker) asserts intent"?
Did I get the wrong page?
--
Brian May <bam@snoopy.apana.org.au>
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2004-11-22 11:44 Would You Fly an Airplane with a Linux-Based Control System? Preben Randhol
2004-11-22 13:23 ` Simon Clubley
2004-11-22 22:36 ` Brian May [this message]
2004-11-22 23:07 ` Ed Falis
2004-11-22 23:29 ` David Botton
2004-11-23 4:11 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-11-23 9:24 ` Martin Krischik
2004-11-25 18:28 ` Mike Silva
2004-11-25 20:15 ` David Botton
2004-11-26 3:11 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-11-26 10:11 ` Alex R. Mosteo
2004-11-26 11:51 ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-11-26 12:32 ` Alex R. Mosteo
2004-11-26 13:40 ` Adrien Plisson
2004-11-26 13:54 ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-11-26 22:22 ` Adrien Plisson
2004-11-27 0:24 ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-11-29 1:23 ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-12-04 18:58 ` Enrique Laso Leon
2004-12-05 1:29 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-12-05 13:50 ` Would You Fly an Airplane with a Linux-Based Control Larry Kilgallen
2004-12-06 13:20 ` Would You Fly an Airplane with a Linux-Based Control System? Simon Clubley
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2004-11-26 11:40 ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-11-26 12:21 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2004-11-26 13:00 ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2004-11-26 19:25 ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-11-26 19:50 ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-11-26 22:58 ` Simon Wright
2004-11-27 20:24 ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-11-29 1:09 ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-11-29 20:06 ` Preben Randhol
2004-11-26 20:58 ` Mike Silva
2004-11-27 0:06 ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-11-27 0:55 ` Rod Haper
2004-11-27 1:31 ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-11-27 8:07 ` Martin Krischik
2004-11-27 9:16 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-11-27 9:51 ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-11-27 13:44 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-11-29 20:13 ` Preben Randhol
2004-11-27 20:31 ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-11-27 7:59 ` Martin Krischik
2004-11-27 8:24 ` Pascal Obry
2004-11-27 19:36 ` Mike Silva
2004-11-26 21:09 ` Mike Silva
2004-11-27 0:15 ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-11-27 19:41 ` Mike Silva
2004-11-27 7:47 ` Martin Krischik
2004-11-29 20:04 ` Preben Randhol
2004-11-30 3:11 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-11-30 15:20 ` Mike Silva
2004-12-01 2:51 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-11-30 13:24 ` Martin Krischik
2004-11-30 17:28 ` Preben Randhol
2004-12-01 9:27 ` Martin Krischik
2004-12-01 16:59 ` Preben Randhol
2004-12-01 18:53 ` Martin Krischik
2004-12-02 21:07 ` Preben Randhol
2004-12-05 6:52 ` Brian May
2004-11-23 12:28 ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-11-23 10:35 ` Robert Kaiser
2004-11-23 12:36 ` Martin Krischik
2004-11-23 21:16 ` Simon Wright
2004-11-23 22:09 ` Brian May
2004-11-24 6:07 ` Simon Wright
2004-11-24 14:39 ` Mike Silva
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2004-11-29 6:33 Christoph Karl Walter Grein
2004-11-29 6:45 Christoph Karl Walter Grein
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