From: Markus E Leypold <development-2006-8ecbb5cc8aREMOVETHIS@ANDTHATm-e-leypold.de>
Subject: Re: New open source UML tool including Ada support
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 00:25:06 +0200
Date: 2007-07-11T00:25:06+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <s5sl7v7v7h.fsf@hod.lan.m-e-leypold.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: m21wfg597b.fsf@mac.com
> Markus E Leypold <development-2006-8ecbb5cc8aREMOVETHIS@ANDTHATm-e-leypold.de> writes:
>
>> Quite right. I'm only trolling on the license situation since I'm
>> probably already infamous for my destructive relationship to
>> licensing. The problem simply is, that the page AFAIS doesn't state
>> a license (so I can do everything with the tool I want? -- strange)
>> and that we can't assume you get the tool under *GPL since you can't
>> give it to others under that circumstances w/o source.
>
> Reading the terms of use it's not obvious what meaning 'open source'
> has!
>
> Of course, since they say "You may not decompile, reverse engineer or
> otherwise attempt to discover the source code of the software." it's
> possible that the terms of use are still draft ..
Oh, I see. In _Terms of Use_. I wouldn't have looked there for the
license, actually. Somewhere else at the site it's stated, it _will_
be available under amodified LGPL. The press release is a bit early,
'cause it says "Under the terms of the Ameos open source agreement, a
\u201cclean\u201d open source version of Ameos, called OpenAmeos, has
been created to ensure that anyone installing a new version of Ameos
will be able to use it freely without encumbrances of any other source
contributions. This version is freely downloadable at
http://www.openameos.org." -- which obviously isn't happening yet.
So it's not open source yet, and as I said, I'll believe it when it
happens. Not to stab the gift horse, but wasn't the last "free"
give-away from AONIX the "you now pay only for support" campaign,
which turned out to mean: "if you already bought something very
expensive". Technically right, but the "as it is with Linux" spin was
completely off the mark.
(Am I resentful? Perhaps. Still I think, the best marketing is if one
doesn't have to spin it to an extent that will simply disappoint
anyone who is really trying to open the box: Some people resent being
bullshitted :-), not very much, but I won't forget it either).
So AONIX and ScopeSET: Really, really beautiful if all this will
become true: I'm also speaking as an ex-teacher -- we've been missing
tools like this sorely also and especially in teaching. The press
release, though is a bit early: I won't count my chickens before
they're hatched.
Regards -- Markus
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Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-10 9:38 New open source UML tool including Ada support Martin
2007-07-10 13:10 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-07-10 15:53 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2007-07-10 16:09 ` Martin
2007-07-10 16:10 ` Martin
2007-07-10 17:08 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-07-10 18:28 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-07-10 19:11 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-07-10 19:51 ` Simon Wright
2007-07-10 22:25 ` Markus E Leypold [this message]
2007-07-10 20:14 ` Martin
2007-07-10 22:35 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-07-17 0:38 ` dave.wood
2007-07-17 7:56 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-07-17 18:41 ` dave.wood
2007-07-17 19:09 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-07-17 19:12 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-07-17 9:36 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-07-17 10:10 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-07-17 10:43 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-07-17 12:10 ` Markus E Leypold
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