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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Help with embedded hardware/software platform selection for ADA
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 10:46:24 +0200
Date: 2013-07-02T10:46:24+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <s4e8djhd4rxk$.gzmors195o34$.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 51d280e7$0$6556$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net

On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 09:27:40 +0200, Georg Bauhaus wrote:

> On 02.07.13 01:35, Simon Clubley wrote:
>> On 2013-07-01, Dmitry A. Kazakov <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote:
>>>
>>> Don't be. Meanwhile, there are plenty of Intel Atom and AMD Geode SBCs.
>>>
>>> E.g. an ALIX board is under 100 EUR.
>>>
>>>     http://www.pcengines.ch/alix.htm
>>>     http://pcengines.ch/pic/alix2b3.jpg
>>
>> That is way, way too big for some embedded environments (for example if
>> someone wants to drop a board into a model aircraft, ground based robot
>> or handheld device).
> 
> Also, rather expensive if you want to connect many small "systems".

Well, it is an interesting question. Yes, Atom and Geode are more expensive
than ARM, for whatever reasons. But an industrial board is about 1000 EUR
anyway. The situation is same it was with workstations before PCs broke
through.

> Vendors:
> 
> I still wonder why not a single vendor sells a Ravenscar run-time
> with compiler at a hobbyist price, without support.

Why a hobbyist would even look at Ravenscar?

IMO, a hobbyist if not obsessed with systems programming, wants full Ada
and a "normal" OS. This is quite possible to have today. And this is where
Ada shines, because you can develop and test on a PC and then just
recompile the code for the embedded target without any changes. At least
this is the way we do it.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de

  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-02  8:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-14 15:39 Help with embedded hardware/software platform selection for ADA Max Herman
2013-06-14 17:05 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-06-17 15:51   ` Max Herman
2013-06-17 17:12     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-06-14 17:45 ` G.B.
2013-06-14 20:52   ` Simon Wright
2013-06-14 20:16 ` RasikaSrinivasan
2013-06-14 20:51   ` Simon Wright
2013-06-17 16:00   ` Max Herman
2013-06-17  0:38 ` Luke A. Guest
2013-06-17 16:05   ` Max Herman
2013-07-04 16:13     ` Lucretia
2013-06-17  6:55 ` Help with embedded hardware/software platform selection for Ada Jacob Sparre Andersen
2013-06-17 16:15   ` Max Herman
2013-06-26 23:58   ` Luke A. Guest
2013-06-17 21:46 ` Help with embedded hardware/software platform selection for ADA Marcus F
2013-07-01 18:45   ` mjsilva
2013-07-01 19:32     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-01 23:35       ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-02  7:27         ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-07-02  8:46           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2013-07-02  9:09             ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-07-02 14:50               ` Shark8
2013-07-02 15:08             ` mjsilva
2013-07-02 16:53               ` Robert A Duff
2013-07-02 22:47               ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-03  0:22                 ` Luke A. Guest
2013-07-03 19:13                   ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-03 19:19                     ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-03 20:50                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-07-08 12:53                         ` Eryndlia Mavourneen
2013-07-03 21:29                       ` Luke A. Guest
2013-07-03 22:02                       ` Niklas Holsti
2013-07-04 16:02                     ` Luke A. Guest
2013-07-05 21:08                       ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-03  1:01                 ` mjsilva
2013-07-03  2:41                   ` Luke A. Guest
2013-07-03  7:17                     ` Shark8
2013-07-02 16:52             ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-02 17:27               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-02 19:29                 ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-02 20:21                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-03 12:08                     ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-03 12:47                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-03 16:56                         ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-02 22:21                 ` mjsilva
2013-07-03  7:18                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-03  8:03                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-07-03 11:11                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-03 12:49                         ` G.B.
2013-07-03 16:14                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-03 14:50                     ` mjsilva
2013-07-02  8:26         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-02 10:44           ` Bill Findlay
2013-07-02 13:02             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-02 13:59               ` Bill Findlay
2013-07-02 14:41                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-02 16:45                   ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-02 17:40                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-02 16:57           ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-02 17:44             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-02 14:55         ` mjsilva
2013-07-02 15:20           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-02 15:58             ` mjsilva
2013-07-02 16:58               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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