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From: "Vladimir Olensky" <vladimir_olensky@yahoo.com>
Subject: Ada and GC   (Was Re: Ammo-zilla)
Date: 1999/10/29
Date: 1999-10-29T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <s1iiolchr0877@corp.supernews.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3818D4F0.92FC4DC9@mail.earthlink.net


Charles Hixson wrote in message <3818D4F0.92FC4DC9@mail.earthlink.net>...

> Also, and
>speaking particularlly to the point of garbage collection, I would
>prefer a collector that one could invoke as needed, or at least one that
>was easy to stop and start.  I believe that the gc calls within Java are
>"hints".
>


Probably Modula-3 GC (exists for more than 10 years) is  better "hint"
regarding user control over GC.

http://www.research.digital.com/SRC/m3sources/html/runtime/src/common/RTColl
ector.i3.html
http://www.research.digital.com/SRC/m3sources/html/runtime/src/common/RTColl
ectorSRC.i3.html

These references are also available from the  Modula-3 Language definition
page:
http://www.research.digital.com/SRC/m3defn/html/m3.html

There were some concerns  that as GC in Ada is not mandatory
 and it's implementation is up to Ada vendors then using it would
 lead to loosing portability (compiling and using code originally written
 for system with GC on  a system that does not have GC would lead
 to memory leaks).

To avoid such situation  Ada GC could be implemented not within the core
system but as separate package. When it  WITHed with the user program
than it could be invoked for TRACED  ACCESS TYPES.

So on systems without GC that code just could not be compiled and used
without
necessary changes.

In M3  references by default are traced and when one do not want to use GC
with them
they are marked as UNTRACED
(http://www.research.digital.com/SRC/m3defn/html/refs.html)

In Ada references by default are UNTRACED and could be set to TRACED to be
handled by the attached (WITHed) GC. Such approach would provide
compatibility
with the existing  Ada design and facilitate better Ada usage for general
type
applications (not  embedded ,real-time and safety critical where
unpredictable
delays caused by GC are unacceptable).

Regards,
Vladimir Olensky








  reply	other threads:[~1999-10-29  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-10-23  0:00 Ammo-zilla Stanley R. Allen
1999-10-24  0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-10-24  0:00   ` Ammo-zilla David Botton
1999-10-24  0:00 ` Ammo-zilla Aidan Skinner
1999-10-24  0:00   ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-10-24  0:00     ` Ammo-zilla David Botton
1999-10-28  0:00       ` Ammo-zilla Charles Hixson
1999-10-28  0:00         ` Ammo-zilla Tucker Taft
1999-10-31  0:00           ` Ammo-zilla Brian Rogoff
1999-11-01  0:00             ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-11-01  0:00               ` Ammo-zilla Brian Rogoff
1999-11-02  0:00                 ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-11-02  0:00                   ` Ammo-zilla Brian Rogoff
1999-11-02  0:00               ` Ammo-zilla Robert A Duff
1999-10-28  0:00         ` Ammo-zilla Laurent Guerby
1999-10-28  0:00           ` Ammo-zilla Charles Hixson
1999-10-29  0:00             ` Vladimir Olensky [this message]
1999-10-29  0:00               ` Ada and GC (Was Re: Ammo-zilla) David Botton
1999-10-31  0:00                 ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-10-30  0:00                   ` Samuel T. Harris
1999-10-30  0:00                     ` David Botton
1999-10-28  0:00           ` Ammo-zilla David Starner
1999-10-29  0:00             ` Ammo-zilla Larry Kilgallen
1999-10-29  0:00               ` Ammo-zilla David Starner
1999-10-29  0:00                 ` Ammo-zilla Tucker Taft
1999-10-30  0:00                   ` Ammo-zilla Lutz Donnerhacke
1999-10-29  0:00                 ` Ammo-zilla David Botton
1999-10-29  0:00                   ` Ammo-zilla mike
1999-10-29  0:00                     ` Ammo-zilla David Botton
1999-10-31  0:00                     ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-11-02  0:00                       ` Ammo-zilla Charles Hixson
1999-11-03  0:00                         ` Ammo-zilla Wes Groleau
1999-11-01  0:00                     ` Ammo-zilla Geoff Bull
1999-10-29  0:00                 ` Ammo-zilla Matthew Heaney
1999-10-29  0:00                   ` Ammo-zilla Charles Hixson
1999-10-31  0:00                 ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-10-31  0:00                   ` Ammo-zilla David Starner
1999-11-01  0:00                     ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-11-01  0:00                     ` Ada and GC. Was: Ammo-zilla Vladimir Olensky
1999-11-01  0:00                       ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-11-01  0:00                       ` Tucker Taft
1999-11-02  0:00                         ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-11-02  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-02  0:00                           ` Charles Hixson
1999-11-03  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-03  0:00                               ` Charles Hixson
1999-11-01  0:00                     ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-11-01  0:00                   ` Ammo-zilla Robert A Duff
1999-11-01  0:00                     ` Ammo-zilla Vladimir Olensky
1999-11-01  0:00                     ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-11-02  0:00                       ` Ammo-zilla Robert A Duff
1999-11-02  0:00                         ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-11-03  0:00                           ` Ammo-zilla Vladimir Olensky
1999-11-03  0:00                             ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-11-04  0:00                               ` Ada GC (was Re: Ammo-zilla) Vladimir Olensky
1999-11-06  0:00                                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-06  0:00                                   ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-11-06  0:00                                     ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-11-06  0:00                                     ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-09  0:00                                     ` Robert A Duff
1999-11-10  0:00                                       ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-11-10  0:00                                         ` Richard D Riehle
1999-11-10  0:00                                           ` Robert A Duff
1999-11-10  0:00                                           ` Nick Roberts
1999-11-12  0:00                                             ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-11-12  0:00                                               ` Didier Utheza
1999-11-12  0:00                                             ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-12  0:00                                           ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-11-04  0:00                             ` Ada GC (was Ammo-zilla) Nick Roberts
1999-11-04  0:00                               ` Wes Groleau
1999-10-31  0:00                 ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-10-31  0:00                   ` Garbage colletion Lutz Donnerhacke
1999-11-01  0:00                     ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-11-01  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-01  0:00                       ` Gnat IDE (was: Garbage colletion) Ted Dennison
1999-11-01  0:00                       ` Garbage colletion Lutz Donnerhacke
1999-11-01  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-04  0:00                           ` Didier Utheza
1999-11-04  0:00                             ` David Starner
1999-11-01  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-01  0:00                       ` Lutz Donnerhacke
1999-10-30  0:00             ` Ammo-zilla Lutz Donnerhacke
1999-10-30  0:00               ` Ammo-zilla Matthew Heaney
1999-10-31  0:00             ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-10-29  0:00           ` Ammo-zilla Robert I. Eachus
1999-10-28  0:00         ` Ammo-zilla Matthew Heaney
1999-10-28  0:00           ` Ammo-zilla mitch
1999-10-29  0:00             ` Ammo-zilla Matthew Heaney
1999-10-31  0:00         ` Ammo-zilla Robert Dewar
1999-10-24  0:00     ` Ammo-zilla Aidan Skinner
1999-10-25  0:00       ` Ammo-zilla Jean-Pierre Rosen
1999-10-24  0:00     ` Ammo-zilla Matthew Heaney
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