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From: "Vladimir Olensky" <vladimir_olensky@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Self-referential types
Date: 1999/10/18
Date: 1999-10-18T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <s0li4hkar018@corp.supernews.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 7uds5f$ljp$1@nnrp1.deja.com


Robert Dewar wrote in message <7uds5f$ljp$1@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>In article <s08h609obhk23@corp.supernews.com>,
>  "Vladimir Olensky" <vladimir_olensky@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> I think this is extremely bad. By such a lot of valuable
>> information just lost.
>> Only participants have it.
>
>There is the amazing facility known as a library (I guess the
>online crowd have forgotten about these amazing institutions :-)

   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I do not think so. This is more general issue.

Availability of printed information in a library  depends
on where this library is located (country, location etc.).
I am sure that the library of NY university and many
other universities in some countries  have a lot of the
printed materials. A lot of libraries in many countries
do not have many of the published materials.
It is just imposible to have all in an average labrary.
This is also a matter of $$$.
This vary from country to country and in some of them
in order to get some material you should order that
material and wait several weeks or monthes.
After that  one gets  it for limited period of time.
In some countries one should be either student
or proffesor to get access to the university labraries.
Just weight all the efforts for getting needed information
and it will be clear  why now Internet plays such great
role in education (obtaining needed information).
If the materil is available online one can save a lot
of time and efforts.
There are some other issues here that also has
significant impact on that.

In many  cases online internet access is the
only alternative. One can (almost) instantly obtains what
is needed.

Internet now has great positive impact on the progress
and will have much more in the future.


>> I think that in case of Ada all proceedings and materials
>> should be
>> freely available online and for download.


<snipped>

>> I think that this is one of the ways to promote Ada.
>> If this work need sponsors I hope that Ada Resource
>> Association could be such and moreover it could even sponsor
>> the work to make
>> most valuable Ada books available online (including setting up
>agreements
>> with publishers and authors).
>
>Ahem .. this is not just a matter of "work .. [to] .. setting
>up agreements", there is $$$ involved. Why would a publisher
>publish a book, if anyone can download it free? Well there are
>legitimate answers to this and a few publishers have been
>convinced to publish electronic books, or allow their hard
>copy books to be available on line, but this is an exception.


When I said  to "sponsor" I hoped that this would mean to spend
some $$$.
 I had the understanding that  this is one of the goals of the Ada
Resource Association   to promote Ada. To promote something
one need to spend some money for that in a right way.
(Java promotion is a good example of that).

I  just wonder if Ada Resource  Association  has some $$$ to
sponsor and promote Ada in a way described above ?


Regards,
Vladimir Olensky






  reply	other threads:[~1999-10-18  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <7ttb4a$8mq$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
     [not found] ` <3802597B.9205AEE8@averstar.com>
1999-10-12  0:00   ` Self-referential types Ted Dennison
1999-10-12  0:00     ` Matthew Heaney
1999-10-13  0:00       ` Ted Dennison
1999-10-12  0:00 ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-10-12  0:00   ` Matthew Heaney
1999-10-12  0:00     ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-10-12  0:00       ` Matthew Heaney
1999-10-13  0:00         ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-10-13  0:00           ` Brian Rogoff
1999-10-15  0:00             ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-10-15  0:00               ` Marin David Condic
1999-10-15  0:00                 ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-10-18  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-10-19  0:00                     ` Robert I. Eachus
     [not found]               ` <7u86su$o5v$1@nntp8.atl.mindspring.net>
1999-10-18  0:00                 ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-10-22  0:00                   ` Richard D Riehle
1999-10-22  0:00                     ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-10-18  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1999-10-18  0:00                 ` Ed Falis
1999-10-19  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-10-18  0:00                 ` Brian Rogoff
     [not found]               ` <slrn80fl9f.68j.aidan@skinner.demon.co.uk>
1999-10-19  0:00                 ` Wes Groleau
1999-10-21  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-10-21  0:00                     ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-10-21  0:00                     ` Comments (was: Self-referential types) Wes Groleau
1999-10-21  0:00                       ` Ehud Lamm
1999-10-22  0:00                         ` Ted Dennison
1999-10-23  0:00                           ` Ehud Lamm
1999-10-23  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1999-10-23  0:00                           ` Ehud Lamm
1999-10-23  0:00                             ` Comments Georg Bauhaus
1999-10-24  0:00                               ` Comments Ehud Lamm
1999-10-26  0:00                                 ` Comments Robert I. Eachus
1999-10-28  0:00                                   ` Comments Jerry van Dijk
1999-10-28  0:00                                     ` Comments Ted Dennison
1999-10-25  0:00                             ` Comments (was: Self-referential types) Wes Groleau
1999-10-23  0:00                       ` M.
     [not found]                       ` <Pine.A41.3.96-heb-2.07.991021191504.30582K-100000@pluto.mscc.huji. <381477c9.e1388ff3@ftw.rsc.raytheon.com>
1999-10-25  0:00                         ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-10-21  0:00                     ` Self-referential types Jean-Pierre Rosen
1999-10-21  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1999-10-22  0:00                     ` Richard D Riehle
1999-10-23  0:00                       ` Robert A Duff
1999-10-23  0:00                         ` Richard D Riehle
1999-10-24  0:00                       ` Michel DELARCHE
1999-10-13  0:00         ` Ted Dennison
1999-10-13  0:00           ` Matthew Heaney
1999-10-13  0:00         ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-10-13  0:00           ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-10-18  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1999-10-18  0:00             ` Vladimir Olensky [this message]
1999-10-18  0:00             ` Laurent Guerby
1999-10-12  0:00     ` Ted Dennison
1999-10-12  0:00       ` Matthew Heaney
1999-10-12  0:00     ` news.oxy.com
1999-10-12  0:00       ` Matthew Heaney
1999-10-12  0:00       ` Ted Dennison
1999-10-12  0:00         ` Stanley R. Allen
1999-10-13  0:00           ` Ted Dennison
1999-10-13  0:00         ` Vladimir Olensky
1999-10-14  0:00         ` Multiple Inheritance in Ada 95 [was Re: Self-referential types] Tucker Taft
1999-10-12  0:00     ` Self-referential types Richard D Riehle
1999-10-12  0:00 ` Robert A Duff
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