From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Why UTF-8 (was Re: Lower bounds of Strings)
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2021 19:08:11 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <rtcre8$1bug$1@gioia.aioe.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: rtcfvn$j33$1@dont-email.me
On 2021-01-09 15:52, Jeffrey R. Carter wrote:
> On 1/9/21 3:31 AM, Randy Brukardt wrote:
>> The default String should be UTF-8, the others should be reserved for
>> special cases (interfacing in particular). You don't want the default
>> string
>> type to restrict the contents, and you don't want it to waste a lot of
>> space.
>
> I don't understand this. I presume there was a time when the extra
> complexity of UTF-8 was a reasonable price to pay for the larger than
> 1-byte character range it provided, and there may be systems where it
> still makes sense, but with most systems these days having GB of memory
> and TB of storage, the simplicity of using 2 bytes per character seems
> worth the wasted space. On my 4-yr-old computer I could do everything
> with 4-byte characters and not have a problem.
Because there is no complexity in UTF-8. String characters are always
accessed consequently. So UCS-4 has no advantage over UTF-8.
As for interfaces any string has always two: presentation array
interface (encoding) and character array interface (view). The language
should better support proper abstractions and then having whatever
encoding will be no problem.
--
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de
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2021-01-05 11:04 Lower bounds of Strings Stephen Davies
2021-01-05 11:57 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2021-01-05 12:32 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2021-01-05 13:40 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2021-01-05 14:31 ` Stephen Davies
2021-01-05 17:24 ` Stephen Davies
2021-01-05 18:28 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2021-01-05 21:02 ` Stephen Davies
2021-01-07 10:38 ` Stephen Davies
2021-01-07 21:39 ` Randy Brukardt
2021-01-07 22:38 ` Stephen Davies
2021-01-05 12:24 ` Luke A. Guest
2021-01-05 12:49 ` Simon Wright
2021-01-05 12:51 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2021-01-06 3:08 ` Randy Brukardt
2021-01-06 9:13 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2021-01-07 0:17 ` Randy Brukardt
2021-01-07 9:57 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2021-01-07 22:03 ` Randy Brukardt
2021-01-08 9:04 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2021-01-08 17:23 ` Shark8
2021-01-08 20:19 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2021-01-09 2:18 ` Randy Brukardt
2021-01-09 10:53 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2021-01-12 8:19 ` Randy Brukardt
2021-01-12 9:37 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2021-01-09 2:31 ` Randy Brukardt
2021-01-09 14:52 ` Why UTF-8 (was Re: Lower bounds of Strings) Jeffrey R. Carter
2021-01-09 18:08 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2021-01-12 7:58 ` Randy Brukardt
2021-01-11 21:35 ` Lower bounds of Strings Shark8
2021-01-12 8:12 ` Randy Brukardt
2021-01-12 20:51 ` Shark8
2021-01-12 22:56 ` Randy Brukardt
2021-01-13 12:00 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2021-01-13 13:27 ` AdaMagica
2021-01-13 13:53 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2021-01-13 14:08 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2021-01-14 11:38 ` AdaMagica
2021-01-14 12:27 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2021-01-14 13:31 ` AdaMagica
2021-01-14 14:02 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2021-01-14 14:34 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2021-01-14 15:28 ` Shark8
2021-01-14 15:41 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2021-01-19 21:02 ` G.B.
2021-01-19 22:27 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2021-01-20 20:10 ` G.B.
2021-01-20 20:25 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2021-01-15 10:24 ` Stephen Davies
2021-01-15 11:41 ` J-P. Rosen
2021-01-15 17:35 ` Stephen Davies
2021-01-15 19:36 ` Egil H H
2021-01-16 12:57 ` Stephen Davies
2021-01-17 14:10 ` Stephen Davies
2021-01-19 5:48 ` Randy Brukardt
2021-01-19 6:13 ` Gautier write-only address
2021-01-15 11:48 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2021-01-15 13:34 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2021-01-15 13:56 ` Stephen Davies
2021-01-15 15:12 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2021-01-15 17:22 ` Stephen Davies
2021-01-15 21:10 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2021-01-15 14:00 ` Stephen Davies
2021-01-16 9:30 ` G.B.
2021-01-16 13:13 ` Stephen Davies
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