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From: Ted Dennison<dennison@telepath.com>
Subject: Re: Off Topic: NMD/Environment was: (Re: Ada and the NMD)
Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 18:56:23 GMT
Date: 2001-09-06T18:56:23+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <rFPl7.6884$4z.29544@www.newsranger.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: iOOl7.11306$592.607182@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com

In article <iOOl7.11306$592.607182@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com>, chris.danx
says...
>Perhaps it's because Northern America is one of the biggest polluters.
>Something like 25% of all CO2 emissions are produced by Northern America.

About 17% by the US, and slowly declining (our output is increasing, but not as
much as everyone else's. See the graph at the bottom of
http://ens.lycos.com/ens/nov98/1998L-11-17-02.html ).

>If the US doesn't support it and Japan doesn't either then Kyoto is a dead
>duck.  IMO Kyoto is pants and there are better ways of dealing with lowering

You are absolutely right. Its a dead duck. Without the US it will be as useless
as the League of Nations, and it won't have the US. The only reason it happened
at all was that our VP at the time liked to think of himself as an
envirionmentalist, and thought a worldwide agreement would be his crowning
glory. The American electorate sure wasn't impressed. Talking emmision reduction
in this country is a vote *loser*.

>The recent train of thought is that we have 40 to 100 years before the
(tale of woe deleted)

No one is really sure what will happen. I've heard some scientists speculate
that it could actually touch off another ice age instead of warming things (we
are probably overdue for one anyway). The only thing I'd be willing to bet on is
that things don't stay the same, but historicly that wouldn't be a good bet
anyway. Earth's climate has always changed wildly over time.

The problem is that we don't really understand the global environmental system
yet. Given that, trying to fix a percieved "bug" in it isn't likely to be
productive (although staying the course is likely to be disasterous as well). 

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-09-06 18:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-09-06  4:53 Ada and the NMD Al Christians
2001-09-06 10:27 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-09-06 11:55   ` Florian Weimer
2001-09-06 18:03     ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-09-07 19:31       ` Florian Weimer
2001-09-06 11:13 ` Preben Randhol
2001-09-06 13:57   ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-06 15:11     ` Preben Randhol
2001-09-06 15:27       ` James Rogers
2001-09-06 16:25         ` Off Topic: NMD/Environment was: (Re: Ada and the NMD) Marin David Condic
2001-09-06 17:57           ` chris.danx
2001-09-06 18:52             ` Darren New
2001-09-06 19:35               ` chris.danx
2001-09-06 20:01                 ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-06 21:43               ` Preben Randhol
2001-09-06 21:46                 ` Darren New
2001-09-06 22:13                   ` Preben Randhol
2001-09-07  0:28                     ` Jeff Creem
2001-09-07  8:42                       ` Preben Randhol
2001-09-07  1:27                     ` James Rogers
2001-09-07  8:56                       ` Preben Randhol
2001-09-07 13:43                     ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-07 16:10                       ` James Rogers
2001-09-10 14:57                         ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2001-09-07 13:45                   ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-07 16:06                     ` Darren New
2001-09-08  1:59                       ` Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
2001-09-10 14:48                       ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-10 15:15                       ` Leif Roar Moldskred
2001-09-08 16:35                     ` Larry Elmore
2001-09-10 14:35                       ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-10 23:01                         ` Larry Elmore
2001-09-07 13:38                 ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-06 18:56             ` Ted Dennison [this message]
2001-09-08  0:38               ` Larry Elmore
2001-09-06 17:59         ` Ada and the NMD Ted Dennison
2001-09-06 19:39           ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-09-06 20:15             ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-06 21:31               ` WAY OFF TOPIC was: " Marin David Condic
2001-09-07 14:12                 ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-07 16:25                 ` Robert Dewar
2001-09-06 20:34           ` James Rogers
2001-09-06 21:02             ` OT: US Green politics (was: Ada and the NMD) Ted Dennison
2001-09-07  2:06               ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
2001-09-07 13:59                 ` Off Topic " Marin David Condic
2001-09-07 16:19             ` Ada and the NMD Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-09-10 14:53               ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-06 22:04           ` Preben Randhol
2001-09-07 14:29             ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-08  0:54             ` Larry Elmore
2001-09-06 17:21       ` Dale Pennington
2001-09-06 21:54         ` Preben Randhol
2001-09-10  5:51         ` Richard Riehle
2001-09-10 20:57           ` David Bolen
2001-09-10 21:31             ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-10 21:36             ` Steve Howard
2001-09-06 17:31       ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-09 11:53         ` Stefan Skoglund
2001-09-06 12:27 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-09-06 16:34 ` William Dale
2001-09-06 19:20 ` Ada in air/missile defense systems (was: Ada and NMD) Michael P. Card
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2001-09-07 18:27 Off Topic: NMD/Environment was: (Re: Ada and the NMD) Beard, Frank
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