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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: linux desktop in trouble
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2020 09:46:46 +0100
Date: 2020-03-19T09:46:46+01:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <r4vbhl$u5l$1@gioia.aioe.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 9d213970-a6da-e0af-7e61-99dd2c772080@planet.nl

On 2020-03-19 07:07, ldries46 wrote:

> As a newcomer in the Linux world I can feel what he means. But I just 
> think that it is not so much the problem of the desktops themselve but 
> of the lack of standardized installation procedures. There should be 
> some installation programs as there are in windows, these programs 
> should be independent of the type of desktop you are using. And of 
> course they should be complete.

Well, it is rather exactly the opposite. Windows has no standardized 
installation procedure and rules, at all. There exist msi files, very 
few use them and it does not make much difference. Otherwise, it is just 
an executable that does any wild thing it pleases after you allow it to 
elevate itself to the administrative rights.

> Take for instance GNAT GPS and GtkAda.

It is especially so with GTK. Basically any Windows program that uses 
GTK hoards its own copy of. It is a total mess under Windows.

> GNAT GPS before running the installation you must make the package 
> executable, it should be delivered execuable as under Windows.

No. It simply should be better maintained as a deb-package, if we are 
talking about Ubuntu.

Situation under Linux is far from perfect but is way better than under 
Windows.

> This is not a problem of the desktop itself but of the producers of 
> software.

True. It would be nice if AdaCore packaged its community GNAT for major 
Linux platforms: Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, CentOS. The problem is the 
resources. It is a lot of work, which, I assume, they prefer to apply on 
other places.

FSF packages are simply undermaintained. The compiler itself works out 
of the box. But GtkAda, GPS (and frequently gprbuild) always had problems.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de

  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-19  8:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-03  9:45 linux desktop in trouble Mehdi Saada
2020-03-03 10:14 ` Leif Roar Moldskred
2020-03-03 16:09   ` Optikos
2020-03-03 14:30 ` Shark8
2020-03-19  6:07 ` ldries46
2020-03-19  8:46   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2020-03-20 15:32     ` Optikos
2020-03-20 20:43       ` Randy Brukardt
2020-03-20 21:58         ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2020-03-24 10:01     ` ldries46
2020-03-24 10:29       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2020-03-24 15:27         ` Optikos
2020-03-22 17:27   ` mgr
2020-03-23 18:39   ` Bob Goddard
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