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From: DPH <rally2xs@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: employment with ada
Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 16:26:50 -0400
Date: 2003-05-05T16:26:50-04:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <qthdbv4u377tdrtvjq8llbopur75mt20df@4ax.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Cfyta.479046$OV.467480@rwcrnsc54

On Mon, 05 May 2003 18:41:38 GMT, "P S Norby" <psnorby@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "DPH" <rally2xs@compuserve.com>
>Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada
>Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 11:03 AM
>Subject: Re: employment with ada
>
>
>
>> 2) If they hire someone and train them in Ada, and designate them to
>> program in Ada, all too often that person thinks to himself, "I'm
>> learning a dead langauge, with nowhere to go if this project fails or
>> completes" and the next thing you know, that person is in an exit
>> interview, looking for a job that will provide "marketable skills."
>>
>
>Given that JSF is the biggest DoD contract ever, and will last several
>decades ('til 2050, according to someone on the "Nova" program on PBS about
>the competition between Boeing & LMCO), one would think that that would be
>enough prestige and security (if there is such a thing these days) to
>overcome some programmers' doubts about language.
>
>And given that LMCO receives several hundred (or thousand?) resumes for each
>posted position, you would think there would be more than enough who are
>willing to do the job in Ada.  (and how about screening out the non-willing
>_before_ hiring/training them?)

Any given Ada-speaking-only SW Engineer could and should be concerned
about:

1) Getting laid off in spite of the hot project - "stuff" can happen.

2) Wanting the freedom to decide they don't want to work at the same
place their whole career, and maybe live in some other state besides
Texas or Georgia or wherever.

3) Maybe wanting to not get underpaid because the employer knows you
don't have much of an option to go anywhere else because this, at 10
years later, is the only Ada island, or maybe one of the 3 remaining
Ada islands (and the other 2 are in places where it goes down to 38
below zero in the winter) in the country.

4) Maybe just plain getting tired of Ada programming but not being
able to leave with the narrow skillset.

Dave Head




  reply	other threads:[~2003-05-05 20:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-05-02  0:36 employment with ada tom
2003-05-02  0:41 ` Ed Falis
2003-05-02  8:51 ` John McCabe
2003-05-02 12:08 ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-02 20:54 ` Bill Sheehan
2003-05-03  3:23   ` R. Srinivasan
2003-05-03  4:13     ` John R. Strohm
2003-05-03  5:03       ` anisimkov
2003-05-03  7:07         ` Anders Wirzenius
2003-05-03  7:46           ` AG
2003-05-05  5:38             ` Anders Wirzenius
2003-05-03 14:44         ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-04 15:32       ` Mark Lorenzen
2003-05-05 11:47         ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-03 14:37     ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-03 16:03 ` DPH
2003-05-03 16:22   ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-05-03 17:18     ` DPH
2003-05-03 20:30       ` Jeffrey Carter
2003-05-03 19:17   ` Richard Riehle
2003-05-03 20:35     ` Jeffrey Carter
2003-05-04 11:01       ` Simon Wright
2003-05-05  0:34       ` Richard Riehle
2003-05-05  2:28         ` Jeffrey Carter
2003-05-05  3:33           ` Wesley Groleau
2003-05-05 12:30           ` Robert A Duff
2003-05-04 13:14     ` DPH
2003-05-05  1:20       ` Richard Riehle
2003-05-07 12:20         ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-08 18:20           ` tmoran
2003-05-09 11:45             ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-09 13:11             ` Hyman Rosen
2003-05-09 17:13               ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-05-05  3:28       ` Wesley Groleau
2003-05-05 10:45         ` DPH
2003-05-05 12:47           ` Ed Falis
2003-05-05 20:19             ` DPH
2003-05-05 20:28               ` Ed Falis
2003-05-06 11:30                 ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-07 13:22                   ` Stephen Leake
2003-05-08 12:21                     ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-05 17:12       ` Simon Wright
2003-05-04 13:20     ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-05 17:19       ` Simon Wright
2003-05-06 12:07         ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-04 18:14     ` Hyman Rosen
2003-05-05  1:24       ` Richard Riehle
2003-05-05  1:27       ` Richard Riehle
2003-05-10 20:29       ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-05-11  3:32         ` Hyman Rosen
2003-05-11  4:25           ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-05-11 16:43             ` Hyman Rosen
2003-05-11 23:04               ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-05-11 15:29           ` Robert A Duff
2003-05-11 17:14             ` Hyman Rosen
2003-05-11 19:24           ` Rod Chapman
2003-05-11 20:03             ` Hyman Rosen
2003-05-12  7:20               ` Rod Chapman
2003-05-04  0:25   ` John R. Strohm
2003-05-04  4:09     ` DPH
2003-05-04 19:37       ` P S Norby
2003-05-04  4:55   ` Steve
2003-05-04 12:55     ` DPH
2003-05-05  6:27     ` Anders Wirzenius
2003-05-04 12:57   ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-04 16:45     ` tmoran
2003-05-04 13:45   ` Alex Gibson
2003-05-05  4:07   ` William J. Thomsa
2003-05-05 18:41   ` P S Norby
2003-05-05 20:26     ` DPH [this message]
2003-05-05 23:06       ` William J. Thomsa
2003-05-05 23:20         ` DPH
2003-05-06  9:24       ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-05-07  1:25         ` Wesley Groleau
2003-05-07 13:23           ` Stephen Leake
2003-05-07 16:36             ` Wesley Groleau
2003-05-06  9:32       ` Preben Randhol
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-05-04  1:32 Alexandre E. Kopilovitch
2003-05-06 16:19 ` L. Siever
2003-05-07 13:35   ` Stephen Leake
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