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From: "Jeffrey Creem" <jeff@thecreems.com>
Subject: Re: Ada's Slide To Oblivion ...
Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2002 12:51:34 GMT
Date: 2002-02-02T12:51:34+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <qhR68.69362$Ln2.15159593@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3C5B659A.7BAADE49@greenlime.com

Don't forget to point out to the non-embedded people that there are very
nice Ada bindings available under windows for ALL COM libraries. This
is a big deal since there are thousands of libraries that have COM
interfaces.


"Adrian Hoe" <byhoe@greenlime.com> wrote in message
news:3C5B659A.7BAADE49@greenlime.com...
> Marin David Condic wrote:
> >
> > Like I said - it depends on what you want to count. We could discuss
that
> > until the cows come home. Clearly, some consumer-oriented box with 5000
> > lines of C code in it is not really in the same league with an F-22 with
> > millions of lines of Ada code in it. But last I heard the government was
> > only going to buy a few hundred F-22s over the project life whereas the
> > little 5000 line C doohickie might be selling in the millions of units.
So
> > which is the more "important" project and how would you stack them up
with
> > respect to which is the more "important" programming language for
embedded
> > systems?
> >
> > I still don't think that any way you want to count it that Ada is going
to
> > score as a major player in the embedded computing world anymore. It's
kind
> > of relegated to the "also ran" category - which is a shame because lots
of
> > people will admit that it really is a good language for embedded
computing.
> > There are just a lot of factors that hinder its success in this area.
> >
> > I think that as Ada continues to grow in the non-embedded fields it will
> > start encouraging more usage in the embedded world. Tools become more
> > prevalent and experience builds with it and along the way it will
trickle
> > into the embedded world. But it will be a slow process and it is
dependent
> > on how successfully Ada penetrates the more "normal" sorts of
application
> > development.
>
> More people are accepting Ada now, at least in my company (new staff).
> Ada will not have the glory of other development tools eg. C++ Builder,
> Delphi, etc. until much bindings are available for programmers'
> disposal. GtkAda and Glade are just the beginning. There is still a long
> way to go for Ada to be accepted in the non-embedded, business
> applications area.
>
> > MDC
>
> --
>                               -- Adrian Hoe
>                               -- http://greenlime.com/users/adrian.hoe





  reply	other threads:[~2002-02-02 12:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-01-30 23:09 Ada's Slide To Oblivion Volkert
2002-01-30 23:57 ` Marin David Condic
2002-01-31  3:04   ` Richard Riehle
2002-01-31  3:05     ` Eric Merritt
2002-01-31 16:26       ` Richard Riehle
2002-01-31 16:41         ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-02-02 15:51           ` Zach Swanson
2002-02-02 19:18             ` Richard Riehle
2002-02-04  4:43         ` Richard Riehle
2002-01-31 14:37     ` Marin David Condic
2002-01-31 15:14   ` Ted Dennison
2002-01-31 17:16     ` Marin David Condic
2002-01-31 18:32       ` Steve O'Neill
2002-01-31 18:27     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-01-31 19:22       ` Marin David Condic
2002-01-31 20:40       ` Christopher A. Bohn
2002-01-31 21:08         ` Marin David Condic
2002-02-01 14:22           ` [off-topic - to lighten the air] Wes Groleau
2002-02-01  2:31         ` Ada's Slide To Oblivion Richard Riehle
2002-02-04 16:51           ` Jerry Petrey
2002-02-04 17:49             ` Richard Riehle
2002-02-04 18:24               ` Marin David Condic
2002-02-05  9:04                 ` DPH
2002-02-05 14:46                   ` Marin David Condic
2002-02-05 16:37                 ` Wes Groleau
2002-02-05 17:22                   ` Marin David Condic
2002-02-05 18:42                   ` Preben Randhol
2002-02-06 21:37                     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-02-07 11:30                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-02-05 13:48               ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-02-06  7:07             ` Anders Wirzenius
2002-02-01  2:26       ` Richard Riehle
2002-02-01 14:27         ` A. Nonny Mouse
2002-02-01 17:18         ` Dale Pontius
2002-02-06  2:37           ` Nick Roberts
2002-02-06  7:31             ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2002-02-06 21:27               ` Nick Roberts
2002-02-06 22:03                 ` Ian S. Nelson
2002-02-07  1:44                 ` Philip Cummins
2002-02-07 13:56                 ` Ian Wild
2002-02-07 17:25                   ` Ray Blaak
2002-02-07 19:20                     ` Hyman Rosen
2002-02-07 21:36                       ` David Brown
2002-02-08 10:36                         ` Ian Wild
2002-02-08 12:23                           ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2002-02-08 12:51                             ` Ian Wild
2002-02-08 14:28                               ` Marin David Condic
2002-02-08 15:52                               ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2002-02-08 13:08                             ` Nick Roberts
2002-02-08 21:28                               ` Matthew Woodcraft
2002-02-08 21:45                               ` Nick Roberts
2002-02-08 22:44                                 ` Darren New
2002-02-09  0:39                           ` David Brown
2002-02-18  3:54                 ` David Thompson
2002-02-06 14:59             ` Ian S. Nelson
2002-01-31 18:28     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-01-31  2:37 ` Jim Rogers
2002-01-31 15:02   ` Marin David Condic
2002-01-31 18:28     ` Steve O'Neill
2002-01-31 19:41       ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-01-31 19:53         ` martin.m.dowie
2002-01-31 20:06         ` Marin David Condic
2002-01-31 21:06         ` Steve O'Neill
2002-01-31 22:28           ` Marin David Condic
2002-01-31 19:42       ` Marin David Condic
2002-01-31 18:41     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-01-31 19:52       ` Marin David Condic
2002-02-01 18:31         ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-02-01 12:28     ` David Gillon
2002-02-01 21:02       ` Marin David Condic
2002-02-02  4:05         ` Adrian Hoe
2002-02-02 12:51           ` Jeffrey Creem [this message]
2002-02-04 15:58           ` Marin David Condic
2002-02-02  4:02       ` Adrian Hoe
2002-02-02 17:35         ` tmoran
2002-02-01  1:42 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-02-01 16:56   ` Nick Roberts
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2002-02-06  7:02 Christoph Grein
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