From: raj <israelrt@optushome.com.au>
Subject: Re: Beginner's Language?
Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 01:51:03 GMT
Date: 2001-05-05T01:51:03+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <q9n6ft0pbn903d5gqqbjfjns0ae0kfvra9@4ax.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 9cukad$nn68@news-dxb
On Fri, 4 May 2001 20:12:21 +0400, Faisal Halim
<faisal_halim@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Assalaamu 'alaikum,
>
>I would like to know if ADA is a good first language for a beginner,
>especially when compared to Lisp and Perl, and BASIC.
>
>Despite my 'O' Level qualification in Computers, please assume you are
>answering a person totally devoid of computer concepts, as I would find
>such replies useful when answering queries from 7th grade students who are
>interested in computers and programming, but have no idea of which language
>to use.
A restricted subset of Ada would be excellent since it can be used to
teach not only programming but more importantly, software engineering
concepts.
However, other languages you may want to consider include Haskell ,
OCaml , Smalltalk and even ( shudder ! C++ or Java )
If your students are bright and motivated to learn theory and
fundamentals, Lisp ( or perhaps its smaller and more pedagogically
oriented dialect Scheme ) and Haskell are excellent choices.
If your students are short sighted drones who want to learn the
currently fashionable choices, C++ and Java are (yuck ) appropriate.
But please, do not inflict Perl and BASIC upon innocent children.
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2001-05-04 16:12 Beginner's Language? Faisal Halim
2001-05-04 16:29 ` Marin David Condic
2001-05-04 17:14 ` chris.danx
2001-05-04 22:35 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-05-05 1:51 ` raj [this message]
2001-05-05 14:51 ` Carl E Gundel
2001-05-05 18:12 ` Dodger
2001-05-05 19:06 ` Jochen Schmidt
2001-05-05 22:59 ` Randal L. Schwartz
2001-05-05 23:38 ` Jochen Schmidt
2001-05-08 16:01 ` John English
2001-05-08 18:37 ` Brian Rogoff
2001-05-09 11:31 ` John English
2001-05-09 14:33 ` Ehud Lamm
2001-05-09 16:40 ` Charles Hixson
2001-05-06 2:19 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-05-18 23:02 ` glauber
2001-05-05 20:09 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-05-06 1:50 ` raj
2001-05-06 2:09 ` raj
2001-05-06 2:09 ` raj
2001-05-06 15:49 ` Randal L. Schwartz
2001-05-06 22:37 ` Multiparadigm Languages : (was Beginners Language) raj
2001-05-06 22:50 ` Beginner's Language? raj
2001-05-06 23:13 ` Multiparadigm Languages : (was Beginners Language) raj
2001-05-05 19:49 ` Beginner's Language? Larry Kilgallen
2001-05-05 22:52 ` Reinout Heeck
2001-05-06 0:03 ` Dale Stanbrough
2001-05-06 1:47 ` Reinout Heeck
2001-05-06 3:38 ` Dale Stanbrough
2001-05-06 4:05 ` Reinout Heeck
2001-05-06 10:49 ` SV: " Dan Andersson
2001-05-06 11:42 ` Reinout Heeck
2001-05-06 13:31 ` SV: " Dan Andersson
2001-05-06 20:17 ` Dave Harris
2001-05-07 10:41 ` Biep @ http://www.biep.org
2001-05-07 10:57 ` Andrew Cooke
2001-05-09 10:22 ` Biep @ http://www.biep.org/
2001-05-10 5:45 ` Raffael Cavallaro
2001-05-10 9:02 ` Jochen Schmidt
2001-05-07 14:24 ` Marin David Condic
2001-05-07 15:45 ` Friedrich Dominicus
2001-05-09 7:19 ` Espen Vestre
2001-05-09 13:55 ` Marin David Condic
2001-05-09 14:18 ` Ola Rinta-Koski
2001-05-09 15:53 ` Marin David Condic
2001-05-10 17:15 ` David Gillon
2001-05-10 19:50 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-05-10 20:15 ` Marie-No�lle Baechler
2001-05-11 5:29 ` Friedrich Dominicus
2001-05-27 12:59 ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2001-05-27 22:34 ` Larry Elmore
2001-06-03 21:18 ` Stefan Skoglund
2001-05-09 14:53 ` Biep @ http://www.biep.org/
2001-05-09 15:39 ` Friedrich Dominicus
2001-05-09 18:24 ` Andreas Krennmair
2001-05-09 23:01 ` Sashank Varma
2001-05-10 0:01 ` David Starner
2001-05-10 6:10 ` Mark VandeWettering
2001-05-10 8:08 ` FM
2001-05-10 15:07 ` Eugene Zaikonnikov
2001-05-10 20:08 ` David Thornley
2001-05-16 18:00 ` Robert Posey
2001-05-16 18:19 ` stephan
2001-05-21 4:15 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-05-21 11:53 ` raj
2001-05-23 10:33 ` Liam Devlin
2001-05-21 21:30 ` Marie-No�lle Baechler
2001-05-27 12:59 ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2001-05-30 20:26 ` Florian Weimer
2001-05-30 21:56 ` Johan Kullstam
2001-05-31 9:01 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2001-05-31 13:29 ` Raymond Toy
2001-05-31 13:51 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2001-05-16 20:44 ` brlewis
2001-05-21 5:09 ` vsync
2001-05-10 6:06 ` Mark VandeWettering
2001-05-10 7:57 ` Andrew Bromage
2001-05-10 8:55 ` Iain McNaughton
2001-05-15 2:02 ` Rob Warnock
2001-05-15 11:56 ` Andreas Krennmair
2001-05-15 17:14 ` FM
2001-05-15 18:08 ` Andreas Krennmair
2001-05-15 20:37 ` FM
2001-05-16 17:56 ` Andreas Krennmair
2001-05-17 3:06 ` FM
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2001-06-05 13:03 ` Biep @ http://www.biep.org/
2001-05-10 13:03 ` John English
2001-05-10 13:44 ` Michael Livshin
2001-05-16 17:59 ` Lex Spoon
2001-05-22 14:16 ` John English
2001-05-22 16:40 ` Poetry in source code (was: Beginner's Language?) Ted Dennison
2001-05-23 15:24 ` John English
2001-05-23 17:34 ` Preben Randhol
2001-05-22 23:31 ` Beginner's Language? raj
2001-05-23 0:44 ` Chad R. Meiners
2001-05-28 0:17 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-05-28 19:39 ` poetry in PL's? (was: Beginner's Language?) Lex Spoon
2001-05-29 13:44 ` Ted Dennison
2001-05-30 20:34 ` Beginner's Language? Florian Weimer
2001-05-10 7:28 ` FM
2001-05-10 8:51 ` Jochen Schmidt
2001-05-10 21:32 ` FM
2001-05-11 0:26 ` James Rogers
2001-05-12 2:56 ` FM
2001-05-12 17:06 ` FM
2001-05-11 15:55 ` Andreas Krennmair
2001-05-11 23:50 ` [OT] Software Engineering at 14 (was: Re: Beginner's Language?) FM
2001-05-12 11:59 ` raj
2001-05-12 14:17 ` Andrew Cooke
2001-05-12 17:09 ` FM
2001-05-12 14:40 ` Andreas Krennmair
2001-05-13 1:44 ` raj
2001-05-13 8:28 ` [OT] Software Engineering at 14 Markus Mottl
2001-05-13 10:41 ` Mark Wotton
2001-05-13 12:04 ` Markus Mottl
2001-05-13 12:48 ` Mark Wotton
2001-05-13 13:05 ` Daniel C. Wang
2001-05-13 22:09 ` FM
2001-05-13 23:44 ` Markus Mottl
2001-05-12 19:23 ` [OT] Software Engineering at 14 (was: Re: Beginner's Language?) Marco Antoniotti
2001-05-12 22:38 ` [OT] Software Engineering at 14 Markus Mottl
2001-05-13 2:48 ` [OT] Software Engineering at 14 (was: Re: Beginner's Language?) Jorn W Janneck
2001-05-13 3:00 ` raj
2001-05-13 8:59 ` [OT] Software Engineering at 14 Markus Mottl
2001-05-13 11:38 ` Karel Thönissen
2001-05-13 12:46 ` Markus Mottl
2001-05-13 14:29 ` Karel Thönissen
2001-05-13 9:44 ` [OT] Software Engineering at 14 (was: Re: Beginner's Language?) Andrew Bromage
2001-05-14 7:21 ` Jorn W Janneck
2001-05-15 22:53 ` [OT] Software Engineering at 14 Reini Urban
2001-05-15 23:24 ` FM
2001-05-12 14:33 ` [OT] Software Engineering at 14 (was: Re: Beginner's Language?) Andreas Krennmair
2001-05-12 20:37 ` FM
2001-05-12 21:56 ` Andreas Krennmair
2001-05-12 23:50 ` FM
2001-05-13 8:02 ` Andreas Krennmair
2001-05-13 20:55 ` FM
2001-05-14 9:27 ` Biep @ http://www.biep.org/
2001-05-13 8:29 ` thi
2001-05-12 17:20 ` [OT] Software Engineering at 14 Markus Mottl
2001-05-13 20:15 ` [OT] Software Engineering at 14 (was: Re: Beginner's Language?) Peter Schuller
2001-05-13 21:54 ` FM
2001-05-14 4:42 ` Peter Schuller
2001-05-14 6:21 ` FM
2001-05-14 18:37 ` Peter Schuller
2001-05-14 21:18 ` FM
2001-05-14 22:45 ` Peter Schuller
2001-05-15 7:49 ` David Rush
2001-05-15 19:29 ` Peter Schuller
2001-05-17 15:21 ` David Rush
2001-05-17 23:19 ` Peter Schuller
2001-05-18 9:50 ` Biep @ http://www.biep.org/
2001-05-14 6:30 ` Peter Schuller
2001-05-14 12:21 ` James A. Robertson
2001-05-14 10:15 ` Biep @ http://www.biep.org/
2001-05-15 9:19 ` Beginner's Language? Siegfried Gonzi
2001-05-15 9:47 ` Preben Randhol
2001-05-15 12:06 ` Andreas Krennmair
2001-05-10 8:11 ` Friedrich Dominicus
2001-05-10 11:09 ` Markus Mottl
2001-05-10 14:44 ` Eugene Zaikonnikov
2001-05-10 15:34 ` ssthapa
2001-05-14 19:58 ` Johan Kullstam
2001-05-14 20:14 ` Matthias Blume
2001-05-16 16:16 ` J�rgen Exner
2001-05-16 20:49 ` Matthias Blume
2001-05-17 0:22 ` Boris Smilga
2001-05-17 1:29 ` a
2001-05-17 3:07 ` FM
2001-05-17 13:56 ` Matthias Blume
2001-05-17 17:54 ` J�rgen Exner
2001-05-09 22:56 ` David Thornley
2001-05-10 9:16 ` Ola Rinta-Koski
2001-05-10 20:17 ` David Thornley
2001-05-10 5:53 ` Mark VandeWettering
2001-05-10 9:22 ` Francis Leboutte
2001-05-10 15:13 ` Georg Bauhaus
2001-05-10 16:49 ` Jochen Schmidt
2001-05-10 17:04 ` Friedrich Dominicus
2001-05-11 7:34 ` Ola Rinta-Koski
2001-05-11 14:47 ` Georg Bauhaus
2001-05-10 15:17 ` brlewis
2001-05-08 0:15 ` Dodger
2001-05-16 16:55 ` Lex Spoon
2001-05-16 17:42 ` Markus Kliegl
2001-05-19 14:24 ` Lex Spoon
2001-05-08 7:11 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2001-05-08 7:23 ` ronald schroder
2001-05-16 17:53 ` Lex Spoon
2001-05-17 0:54 ` Tim May
2001-05-17 1:15 ` Gary Scott
2001-05-17 7:20 ` Tom Lake
2001-05-19 14:40 ` Lex Spoon
2001-05-17 8:20 ` Biep @ http://www.biep.org/
2001-05-17 12:43 ` illya
2001-05-08 13:38 ` Marin David Condic
2001-05-08 23:46 ` Beginner's Ide raj
2001-05-09 14:00 ` Marin David Condic
2001-05-09 14:36 ` chris.danx
2001-05-09 19:09 ` Charles Hixson
2001-05-09 19:06 ` Charles Hixson
2001-05-10 6:20 ` Pascal Obry
2001-05-10 15:31 ` Charles Hixson
2001-05-10 16:12 ` James Rogers
2001-05-10 16:01 ` Stephen Leake
2001-05-11 1:54 ` Retraction : ( Was: Beginner's Ide) raj
2001-05-11 11:44 ` Beginner's Ide Georg Bauhaus
2001-05-11 21:30 ` Stephen Leake
2001-05-12 17:15 ` Simon Wright
2001-05-09 5:32 ` Beginner's Language? Simon Wright
2001-05-10 21:50 ` Gary Scott
2001-05-11 2:14 ` raj
2001-05-10 8:02 ` OZ as a beginners' banguage? Biep @ http://www.biep.org/
2001-05-10 8:06 ` Andrew Cooke
2001-05-11 11:13 ` Torbjörn Lager
2001-05-05 6:23 ` Beginner's Language? Gerhard Häring
2001-05-05 9:06 ` David Starner
2001-05-05 11:05 ` chris.danx
2001-05-05 22:12 ` Nacho Robledo
2001-05-06 13:14 ` Florian Weimer
2001-05-06 19:15 ` David Starner
2001-05-06 15:17 ` DuckE
2001-05-06 20:58 ` Frank
2001-05-06 21:12 ` Kenneth Almquist
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2001-05-31 4:15 ` Frank A. Adrian
2001-05-31 15:34 ` Wes Groleau
2001-05-31 19:22 ` David Thornley
2001-06-02 13:37 ` Johan Kullstam
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