From: "Ken Garlington" <Ken.Garlington@computer.org>
Subject: Re: Interresting thread in comp.lang.eiffel
Date: 2000/07/12
Date: 2000-07-12T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <pv7b5.13180$7%3.915646@news.flash.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: uRY09RB7$GA.307@cpmsnbbsa07
"Bob Allen" <ballen3@email.msn.com> wrote in message
news:uRY09RB7$GA.307@cpmsnbbsa07...
> This is my point exactly, without writting down the contracts, no one
knows
> what to expect.
> If you are going to write it down, why not write it in the class source
> rather than in a seperate
> text that is most likely going to be forgotten and never updated.
Because of
(a) the backgrounds of the people typically involved in defining system
requirements,
(b) the procurement process (see earlier post), and in particular the timing
of procurement events,
(c) the limits of expressibility via structured text,
(d) the additional complexity of the generated code (assuming the contracts
are generated as executable constructs).
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2000-07-13 0:00 ` Interresting thread in comp.lang.eiffel Joachim Durchholz
2000-07-14 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-16 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
2000-07-16 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
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2000-07-12 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
2000-07-13 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-23 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
2000-07-23 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-24 0:00 ` David Gillon
2000-07-24 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-24 0:00 ` swhalen
2000-07-24 0:00 ` David Gillon
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2000-07-13 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
2000-07-13 0:00 ` Marin D. Condic
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2000-07-13 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
2000-07-14 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
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2000-07-13 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
2000-07-13 0:00 ` Marin D. Condic
2000-07-14 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-14 0:00 ` Marin D. Condic
2000-07-14 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-14 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-16 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
2000-07-16 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-19 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
2000-07-19 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
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2000-07-12 0:00 ` David K Allen
2000-07-12 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-12 0:00 ` David K Allen
2000-07-13 0:00 ` Howard W. LUDWIG
2000-07-13 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
2000-07-14 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-14 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-18 0:00 ` Veli-Pekka Nousiainen
2000-07-19 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-19 0:00 ` Bob Allen
2000-07-12 0:00 ` David K Allen
2000-07-12 0:00 ` Bob Allen
2000-07-12 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-13 0:00 ` Bob Allen
2000-07-14 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-14 0:00 ` carr_tom
2000-07-18 0:00 ` Veli-Pekka Nousiainen
2000-07-14 0:00 ` Marin D. Condic
2000-07-12 0:00 ` David Gillon
2000-07-13 0:00 ` David Gillon
2000-07-13 0:00 ` David K Allen
2000-07-13 0:00 ` Bob Allen
2000-07-13 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
2000-07-18 0:00 ` Veli-Pekka Nousiainen
2000-07-19 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
2000-07-14 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-13 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
2000-07-18 0:00 ` Veli-Pekka Nousiainen
2000-07-19 0:00 ` David Gillon
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2000-07-14 0:00 ` Nick Williams
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2000-07-11 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-12 0:00 ` Peter Amey
2000-07-12 0:00 ` Peter Amey
2000-07-13 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
2000-07-12 0:00 ` Bob Allen
2000-07-12 0:00 ` David Starner
2000-07-12 0:00 ` Ken Garlington [this message]
2000-07-11 0:00 ` cropt
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2000-07-11 0:00 ` Aspects (Re: Interesting thread in comp.lang.eiffel) tom
2000-07-12 0:00 ` Steve Merrick
2000-07-12 0:00 ` Frank Mitchell
2000-07-14 0:00 ` Jubilation
2000-07-14 0:00 ` Frank Mitchell
2000-07-15 0:00 ` Jubilation
2000-07-12 0:00 ` Veli-Pekka Nousiainen
2000-07-12 0:00 ` tom
2000-07-12 0:00 ` Design by Contract (was " David Kristola
2000-07-12 0:00 ` Howard W. LUDWIG
2000-07-12 0:00 ` Greg
2000-07-12 0:00 ` Eirik Mangseth
2000-07-13 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
2000-07-14 0:00 ` David Kristola
2000-07-14 0:00 ` Matthew J Heaney
2000-07-16 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
2000-07-17 0:00 ` David Kristola
2000-07-19 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
2000-07-25 0:00 ` Richard Riehle
2000-07-12 0:00 ` Greg
2000-07-12 0:00 ` Matthew J Heaney
2000-07-13 0:00 ` Eirik Mangseth
2000-07-18 0:00 ` Interesting thread in comp.lang.eiffel Veli-Pekka Nousiainen
2000-07-19 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
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2000-07-29 0:00 ` Writing better software was: Design by Contract (was Re: Interesting thread in comp.lang.eiffel) Kent Paul Dolan
2000-07-29 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-31 0:00 ` Stefan Skoglund
2000-08-01 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-08-01 0:00 ` Kent Paul Dolan
2000-08-01 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-07-31 0:00 ` Simon Brady
2000-07-30 0:00 ` John Magness
2000-08-01 0:00 ` Simon Brady
2000-08-01 0:00 ` Simon Brady
2000-08-04 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
2000-08-04 0:00 ` Simon Brady
2000-08-01 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
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2000-07-18 0:00 ` Interesting thread in comp.lang.eiffel Veli-Pekka Nousiainen
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