From: Markus E L <development-2006-8ecbb5cc8aREMOVETHIS@ANDTHATm-e-leypold.de>
Subject: Re: Current status of Ada?
Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 03:51:34 +0200
Date: 2007-09-01T03:51:34+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <pu3axz17bt.fsf@hod.lan.m-e-leypold.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1188580722.187449.288030@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com
Adam Beneschan wrote:
> On Aug 31, 7:25 am, <adawo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> I used to do a lot of training and consulting for Lockheed and CSC related
>> to the Aegis project. Soon after the Paige memo, Lockheed dictated that
>> the software for Aegis would be written in C++ instead of Ada. Almost all
>> training in Ada stopped, and the programmers were given intensive training
>> in C++. I told everyone that it was a big mistake, but my advice was of
>> little interest to those who were already biased toward C++. The answer
>> was, "We can find C++ programmers right out of university CS programs,
>> but no one teaches Ada in CS."
>
> Sigh... My initial reaction to this is that this thinking is just
> totally wrong-headed, and for reasons having nothing to do with the
> languages involved. I frankly wouldn't expect good results from
> *anyone* who can program in language X because it's what they learned
> in college but couldn't pick up language Y; to me, I wouldn't trust
> someone like that to have a real understanding of "software" or
> "programming", and because of that I wouldn't expect them to write
> good software no matter how good language X is, even if it were Ada.
> Ada is not a good enough language to make up for a fundamental lack of
> software engineering understanding.
>
> But I could be way off base.
No. This was approximately my reaction when I read "can find C++
programmers right out of university".
Regards -- Markus
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2007-08-21 19:56 Current status of Ada? Steve Marotta
2007-08-21 22:03 ` Larry Kilgallen
2007-08-21 22:29 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-08-22 0:15 ` Jeffrey Creem
2007-08-22 0:53 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2007-08-23 6:25 ` Harald Korneliussen
2007-08-23 8:13 ` Markus E L
2007-08-23 9:53 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2007-08-23 10:26 ` Harald Korneliussen
2007-08-24 4:31 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2007-08-26 17:51 ` adaworks
2007-08-26 18:46 ` Ed Falis
2007-08-26 20:55 ` Gary Scott
2007-08-28 6:26 ` adaworks
2007-08-28 18:09 ` tmoran
2007-08-29 5:31 ` adaworks
2007-08-29 11:09 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2007-08-29 14:27 ` Ed Falis
2007-08-29 15:43 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2007-08-29 20:37 ` Ed Falis
2007-08-29 21:49 ` Gautier
2007-08-31 14:25 ` adaworks
2007-08-31 17:18 ` Adam Beneschan
2007-08-31 19:46 ` Ed Falis
2007-09-01 1:51 ` Markus E L [this message]
2007-09-01 17:02 ` Gary Scott
2007-09-02 19:04 ` adaworks
2007-09-02 20:03 ` Gary Scott
2007-09-03 11:06 ` Peter C. Chapin
2007-09-03 12:35 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-03 16:38 ` Gary Scott
2007-09-03 16:36 ` Gary Scott
2007-09-02 20:05 ` Ed Falis
2007-09-02 21:29 ` roderick.chapman
2007-09-03 1:18 ` Gary Scott
2007-09-03 6:14 ` anon
2007-09-03 7:10 ` Pascal Obry
2007-09-03 16:18 ` Gary Scott
2007-09-03 16:44 ` Pascal Obry
2007-09-03 18:39 ` Gary Scott
2007-09-03 19:27 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-03 16:12 ` Gary Scott
2007-09-04 7:07 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2007-08-31 19:45 ` Ed Falis
2007-08-28 7:58 ` roderick.chapman
2007-08-28 11:46 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-08-28 11:57 ` Larry Kilgallen
2007-09-12 14:50 ` Gerd
2007-08-29 5:23 ` adaworks
2007-08-29 21:44 ` Gautier
2007-09-17 6:35 ` lou
2007-09-17 9:15 ` Adrian Hoe
2007-09-17 9:27 ` Adrian Hoe
2007-09-17 15:42 ` Ludovic Brenta
2007-09-17 17:58 ` Tomek Wa kuski
2007-09-17 19:53 ` Wiktor Moskwa
2007-09-18 7:55 ` Tomek Wa kuski
2007-09-18 8:26 ` Adrian Hoe
2007-09-18 16:56 ` Wiktor Moskwa
2007-09-17 20:43 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-18 4:51 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-09-18 16:16 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2007-08-22 8:44 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-08-22 12:15 ` Jeffrey Creem
2007-08-22 13:39 ` Larry Kilgallen
2007-08-22 15:33 ` Steve Marotta
2007-08-22 16:36 ` Markus E L
2007-08-29 5:42 ` anon
2007-08-29 7:22 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-08-29 9:23 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-08-29 11:26 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2007-08-29 12:14 ` Markus E L
2007-08-30 6:40 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2007-08-31 0:48 ` Gary Scott
2007-08-30 8:01 ` anon
2007-08-30 9:41 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2007-08-30 10:23 ` Markus E L
2007-08-31 9:58 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2007-08-31 13:27 ` Markus E L
2007-08-31 9:54 ` anon
2007-08-31 11:54 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2007-08-31 13:31 ` Markus E L
2007-08-31 22:32 ` anon
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