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From: "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com>
Subject: Re: Examining individual bytes of an integer
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 15:18:14 -0500
Date: 2018-10-15T15:18:14-05:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <pq2sm7$in8$1@franka.jacob-sparre.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: g2k5fbF9thnU1@mid.individual.net

"Niklas Holsti" <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid> wrote in message 
news:g2k5fbF9thnU1@mid.individual.net...
> On 18-10-15 13:18 , AdaMagica wrote:
>> Am Sonntag, 14. Oktober 2018 23:28:57 UTC+2 schrieb Niklas Holsti:
>>> Not guaranteed, but implied by the "Implementation advice":
>>>
>>> - RM 13.3(11): X'address denotes the address of the first of the
>>> storage elements allocated to X.
>>>
>>> - RM 13.3(14): For an array X, X'Address should point at the first
>>>  component of the array [...].
>>>
>>> Combining those two, it seems that the first element of an array
>>> should start at the first storage element (= lowest address)
>>> allocated to the array.
>>>
>>> By reasonable induction  :-)  the second, third, etc. array
>>> elements follow in increasing address order. But not _guaranteed_,
>>> I agree.
>>
>> There is the old Dewar rule that no compiler is doing nonsense. It
>> would be a very unfriendly compiler to not follow this advice.
>
> As I remember it, Dewar's rule says that the Ada *RM* does not specify 
> nonsense, meaning that if some reading of the RM seems to be nonsense, it 
> is the wrong reading.

That's correct.

> I don't remember Dewar saying anything similar about compilers.

Me either. Compilers do nonsense all of the time (usually not on purpose, 
though).

                           Randy.



  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-15 20:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-14 19:15 Examining individual bytes of an integer Henrik Härkönen
2018-10-14 19:55 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2018-10-14 21:28   ` Niklas Holsti
2018-10-15 10:18     ` AdaMagica
2018-10-15 18:43       ` Niklas Holsti
2018-10-15 20:18         ` Randy Brukardt [this message]
2018-10-16 10:18           ` AdaMagica
2018-10-16 11:55             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-10-16 22:35               ` Randy Brukardt
2018-10-17  8:10                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-10-17  9:47                   ` briot.emmanuel
2018-10-17 10:04                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-10-17 21:57                   ` Randy Brukardt
2018-10-16 22:33             ` Randy Brukardt
2018-10-17  6:51               ` Niklas Holsti
2018-10-17 22:01                 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-10-17  8:17               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-10-17 22:03                 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-10-17 22:10                 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-10-18  8:01                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-10-18  9:33               ` AdaMagica
2018-10-18 21:18                 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-10-19  6:27                   ` Niklas Holsti
2018-10-19  8:28                     ` AdaMagica
2018-10-19 16:38                       ` Niklas Holsti
2018-10-14 21:04 ` Niklas Holsti
2018-10-15  7:49   ` Niklas Holsti
2018-10-15  8:55   ` Simon Wright
2018-10-15 10:52   ` Björn Lundin
2018-10-14 23:42 ` Matt Borchers
2018-10-14 23:45   ` Matt Borchers
2018-10-15  9:02     ` Simon Wright
2018-10-15  7:29   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-10-15  9:05   ` Simon Wright
2018-10-15 16:11     ` Simon Wright
2018-10-15 20:27   ` Randy Brukardt
2018-10-15  5:37 ` Henrik Härkönen
2018-10-15  7:42 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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