From: "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com>
Subject: Re: Ada Successor Language
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 16:39:16 -0500
Date: 2018-07-03T16:39:16-05:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <phgqe4$ha1$1@franka.jacob-sparre.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 865f290f-65c1-4699-b8ae-28781428ba34@googlegroups.com
"Shark8" <onewingedshark@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:865f290f-65c1-4699-b8ae-28781428ba34@googlegroups.com...
On Friday, June 29, 2018 at 2:05:17 PM UTC-6, Randy Brukardt wrote:
> "Shark8" wrote in message
> news:776f3645-ed0c-4118-9b4d-21660e3bba4b...
> ...
>> >I'd honestly like the ability to use X'Type; this would allow us to say
>> >something like this:
>>
>> Please forget that idea, it would be a terrible can of worms in Ada
>> semantics (or anything close to Ada sematics). See the write-up of
>> AI12-0123-1 (long killed) for some details as to why.
>
>But we *are* talking about an Ada successor language; not Ada itself.
>This means a chance to change things out, breaking backwards
>compatibility, getting rid of things like anonymous accesses, defining a
>sensible interface.
I don't think it would work in any language with semantics reasonably close
to Ada's type model. If you're blowing away Ada's type model, then it is no
longer an Ada successor language, but just a new language.
Randy.
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2018-06-02 4:43 Ada Successor Language Shark8
2018-06-02 6:52 ` Luke A. Guest
2018-06-04 2:27 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-04 21:06 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-05 12:31 ` Lucretia
2018-06-02 8:12 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-02 12:14 ` Mehdi Saada
2018-06-02 12:43 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-03 7:39 ` Safety of user-defined operators (was: Ada Successor Language) G.B.
2018-06-03 7:58 ` Safety of user-defined operators Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-02 12:57 ` Ada Successor Language Luke A. Guest
2018-06-04 21:17 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-06-02 13:48 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-03 10:01 ` ric.wai88
2018-06-03 13:04 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-03 13:09 ` Shark8
2018-06-03 15:14 ` Lucretia
2018-06-03 15:09 ` Lucretia
2018-06-03 15:14 ` ric.wai88
2018-06-03 15:16 ` Lucretia
2018-06-03 15:22 ` ric.wai88
2018-06-03 15:31 ` Lucretia
2018-06-03 15:41 ` ric.wai88
2018-06-03 15:54 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-03 16:43 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2018-06-04 5:01 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2018-06-04 7:19 ` Simon Wright
2018-06-04 7:44 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-04 13:53 ` Björn Lundin
2018-06-04 16:54 ` G. B.
2018-06-04 19:37 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-04 22:12 ` G.B.
2018-06-05 7:18 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-04 13:25 ` Lucretia
2018-06-04 14:08 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-04 14:55 ` Lucretia
2018-06-26 13:58 ` jm.tarrasa
2018-06-26 18:44 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2018-06-03 18:44 ` Björn Lundin
2018-06-03 19:37 ` Paul Rubin
2018-06-03 23:56 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-04 0:24 ` Paul Rubin
2018-06-04 0:41 ` Ben Bacarisse
2018-06-04 2:01 ` ric.wai88
2018-06-05 16:46 ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2018-06-06 21:02 ` gautier_niouzes
2018-06-08 10:03 ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2018-06-04 3:19 ` John Smith
2018-06-04 20:56 ` Mehdi Saada
2018-06-04 21:14 ` Paul Rubin
2018-06-05 0:17 ` Shark8
2018-06-05 16:01 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-18 3:31 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-18 6:58 ` Björn Lundin
2018-06-18 12:33 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-18 19:16 ` Niklas Holsti
2018-06-18 19:28 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-18 20:22 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2018-06-18 20:45 ` Niklas Holsti
2018-06-18 21:20 ` Shark8
2018-06-18 21:27 ` ric.wai88
2018-06-18 21:51 ` Shark8
2018-06-22 11:14 ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2018-06-18 22:23 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-18 22:36 ` Paul Rubin
2018-06-19 0:10 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-19 20:32 ` Paul Rubin
2018-06-19 20:37 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-20 8:30 ` Marius Amado-Alves
2018-06-19 7:58 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-19 19:19 ` Paul Rubin
2018-06-19 19:30 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-19 19:39 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-19 20:30 ` Paul Rubin
2018-06-20 7:13 ` Simon Wright
2018-06-29 20:11 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-06-20 7:59 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-22 11:14 ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2018-06-23 19:21 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2018-06-24 8:34 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-24 9:19 ` J-P. Rosen
2018-06-25 7:00 ` briot.emmanuel
2018-06-25 8:23 ` Marius Amado-Alves
2018-06-29 20:20 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-06-25 8:58 ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2018-06-25 9:19 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2018-06-25 12:41 ` J-P. Rosen
2018-06-25 14:03 ` Niklas Holsti
2018-06-25 14:21 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-25 14:44 ` J-P. Rosen
2018-06-25 15:19 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-25 16:21 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-26 7:44 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-26 13:59 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-26 14:05 ` ric.wai88
2018-06-26 15:38 ` Simon Wright
2018-06-26 16:50 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-26 17:25 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-26 18:47 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-26 19:29 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-26 20:03 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-26 20:59 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-29 3:11 ` Paul Rubin
2018-06-29 3:37 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-29 3:48 ` Paul Rubin
2018-06-29 7:29 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-29 7:20 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-29 13:25 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-29 17:39 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-29 19:46 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-29 21:36 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-29 22:21 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-26 21:15 ` Niklas Holsti
2018-06-27 7:07 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-26 14:17 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-26 14:42 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-26 14:47 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-26 21:01 ` Niklas Holsti
2018-06-26 22:03 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-27 2:28 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-27 2:58 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-27 7:15 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-27 16:33 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-27 19:11 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-25 18:05 ` J-P. Rosen
2018-06-26 7:42 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-25 19:32 ` Niklas Holsti
2018-06-25 19:16 ` Niklas Holsti
2018-06-25 20:13 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-25 20:52 ` Niklas Holsti
2018-06-26 7:57 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-26 20:16 ` J-P. Rosen
2018-06-26 20:49 ` Niklas Holsti
2018-06-26 21:09 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-29 20:35 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-06-25 14:18 ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2018-06-29 20:47 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-06-29 20:23 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-07-02 9:37 ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2018-06-29 20:17 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-06-29 22:11 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-29 22:36 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-06-30 8:34 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-19 21:07 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-20 7:33 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-22 11:13 ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2018-06-22 16:02 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-25 8:20 ` Marius Amado-Alves
2018-06-26 17:20 ` Shark8
2018-06-26 17:42 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-25 8:21 ` Paul Rubin
2018-06-25 9:12 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-22 15:18 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-22 15:49 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-19 2:45 ` Shark8
2018-06-19 7:50 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-19 15:35 ` Shark8
2018-06-19 7:35 ` G. B.
2018-06-19 11:36 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-19 15:37 ` Shark8
2018-06-19 17:07 ` G. B.
2018-06-29 20:05 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-06-29 23:18 ` Shark8
2018-07-03 21:39 ` Randy Brukardt [this message]
2018-06-19 0:20 ` Lucretia
2018-06-19 11:51 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-19 13:54 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-06 9:13 ` Niklas Holsti
2018-06-08 16:28 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-08 16:56 ` Mehdi Saada
2018-06-08 17:33 ` Shark8
2018-06-12 1:51 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-12 15:23 ` Luke A. Guest
2018-06-12 15:44 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-12 17:59 ` Luke A. Guest
2018-06-13 16:03 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-13 16:20 ` Luke A. Guest
2018-06-13 18:04 ` G. B.
2018-06-13 5:53 ` Shark8
2018-06-13 6:57 ` Simon Wright
2018-06-13 18:58 ` Shark8
2018-06-13 19:19 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-14 3:19 ` Lucretia
2018-06-14 7:26 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-14 11:25 ` Lucretia
2018-06-14 12:22 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-15 3:35 ` Lucretia
2018-06-15 7:20 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-15 16:03 ` Lucretia
2018-06-15 20:50 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2018-06-15 11:38 ` jm.tarrasa
2018-06-15 12:06 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-15 15:42 ` J-P. Rosen
2018-06-15 17:30 ` Simon Wright
2018-06-15 17:55 ` jm.tarrasa
2018-06-15 19:58 ` Shark8
2018-06-16 7:04 ` Simon Wright
2018-06-16 9:14 ` jm.tarrasa
2018-06-16 10:22 ` Simon Wright
2018-06-16 10:50 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2018-06-16 11:32 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-13 21:15 ` Paul Rubin
2018-06-14 3:20 ` Lucretia
2018-06-14 3:27 ` Shark8
2018-06-14 5:17 ` Paul Rubin
2018-06-14 21:00 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-06-15 3:41 ` Lucretia
2018-06-15 7:08 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-15 7:15 ` Simon Wright
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