From: Brian Drummond <brian@shapes.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: How to configure GNAT GPL on x86-64 Linux for ARM ELF development
Date: Sat, 26 May 2018 23:58:17 -0000 (UTC)
Date: 2018-05-26T23:58:17+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <pecsap$k83$1@dont-email.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: peaq10$n43$1@dont-email.me
On Sat, 26 May 2018 05:06:40 +0000, Adam Jensen wrote:
> On Fri, 25 May 2018 10:50:07 +0000, Brian Drummond wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 25 May 2018 04:45:16 +0000, Adam Jensen wrote:
>>
>>> Is it common for developers to create their own run-time system for
>>> embedded platforms? My inclination would be to look for hardware based
>>> on 1) RTS availability/quality and 2) toolkit complexity/completeness
>>> (completeness implies useful documentation).
>>
>> Not common, no. But RTS availability (esp. SPARK RTS) has to start
>> somewhere, and for the MSP430 I didn't really develop one, just adapt
>> from AVR-Ada.
>>
>> With remarkably little feedback on that project, I admit I've put
>> remarkably little effort into pushing it further. But I want it for my
>> own purposes, the watch is just a pretty by-product.
>
> Super cool. Are your project's documents posted/hosted anywhere for
> others to view and use?
https://sourceforge.net/projects/msp430ada/
It's somewhat stuck in the past, using Peter Bigot's rather nice MSP430
backend, because gcc's own MSP430 backend built into newer versions have
a considerably poorer code generator (last time I looked a couple of
years ago).
Revisiting it is on my to-do list, hopefully it has improved.
> They have the "Make with Ada" competition:
> <https://www.makewithada.org/>
>
> And the Adacore University:
> <http://university.adacore.com/>
Both good forms of publicity, though I wonder to what extent they manage
to bring in new people as opposed to reaching to the converted.
(and I know you've been involved with at least one Ada project for a few
years :-)
> The Nucleo-144 board was selected as a gentle starter kit to develop
> some confidence and familiarity with the tool-chain and the work-flow.
> It was a total failure in this role. However, I have been keeping notes
> and at some point I might create a tutorial for Ada/Spark development on
> Ubuntu x86_64 targeting the ARM MCU on a Nucleo-144 board. After that, I
> will probably move to a platform with more resources. Eventually, I need
> a processor coupled with an FPGA - the FPGA is where most of the hard
> real- time activity (traction with physics) should take place, IMO.
You'll know all about the bottlenecks between a nice fast FPGA engine and
any embedded CPU then.
-- Brian
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Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-05-23 6:37 How to configure GNAT GPL on x86-64 Linux for ARM ELF development Adam Jensen
2018-05-23 8:07 ` Simon Wright
2018-05-24 7:35 ` Adam Jensen
2018-05-24 12:12 ` Brian Drummond
2018-05-25 4:45 ` Adam Jensen
2018-05-25 10:50 ` Brian Drummond
2018-05-26 5:06 ` Adam Jensen
2018-05-26 23:58 ` Brian Drummond [this message]
2018-05-27 8:26 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2018-05-30 19:52 ` JLotty
2018-05-30 21:58 ` Simon Wright
2018-06-03 23:21 ` JLotty
2018-06-04 7:11 ` Simon Wright
2018-05-25 3:29 ` Adam Jensen
2018-05-25 7:55 ` Simon Wright
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