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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Finalization of library level tasks
Date: Tue, 1 May 2018 11:40:37 +0200
Date: 2018-05-01T11:40:37+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <pc9cml$1429$1@gioia.aioe.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: f675667c-51cf-4a29-8cee-6f526da04cca@googlegroups.com

On 2018-05-01 11:17, AdaMagica wrote:

> What I do not understand is the model he wants to have for Finalize'Class.

I can elaborate if you explain what you understand under "model".

> The idea is quite complicated because of Rosen's trick, redispatch etc.

No, the idea is simple - objects of any type must allow user-defined 
finalization (and initialization).

Rosen's trick and re-dispatch are not my ideas but existing Ada 
features. The latter has huge issues with type consistency which has 
negative effect on finalization.

> Dmitry only posts some fragmentary ideas without ever giving a complete elaboration. So we, if we try to understand and argue with him, have to imagine and guess what the hell he has in mind.

I am ready to answer any questions.

Normally all discussions deviate straight to "Aber, meine Herren, das 
ist keine Physik", or to denial of any software design concepts from ADT 
to nested tasks and then the problem itself: nobody needs X (substitute 
"finalization", "task component" etc).

> You cannot directly pass an x of type T3 to this Finalize. You can make his example work if you add quite some more code. His examples like this one, if really current Ada (and not some wishful version), are rarely complete.

Yes, it is always pseudo-code I use in such discussions. If I made it 
precise, people would critique syntax issues.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de


  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-01  9:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-15 13:40 Finalization of library level tasks Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-15 14:02 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2018-04-15 14:12   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-15 14:54     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2018-04-15 15:15       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-15 15:46         ` AdaMagica
2018-04-15 15:53           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-15 17:17           ` AdaMagica
2018-04-15 17:40             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-15 19:32               ` Egil H H
2018-04-15 20:09                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-25 23:49                   ` Randy Brukardt
2018-04-16  5:19               ` J-P. Rosen
2018-04-16  7:30                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-16  7:55                   ` J-P. Rosen
2018-04-16  8:13                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-16  8:32                       ` J-P. Rosen
2018-04-16 15:26                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-17  9:51                           ` AdaMagica
2018-04-17 12:31                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-17 15:37                               ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2018-04-17 15:57                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-17 20:16                                   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2018-04-17 20:59                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-18  5:20                                       ` J-P. Rosen
2018-04-17 20:55                                   ` J-P. Rosen
2018-04-17 21:23                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-18  5:26                                       ` J-P. Rosen
2018-04-26  0:02                                         ` Randy Brukardt
2018-04-18  8:06                               ` AdaMagica
2018-04-18  8:25                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-18  8:52                                   ` Egil H H
2018-04-18  9:58                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-18 11:33                                       ` J-P. Rosen
2018-04-18 11:58                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-18 12:00                                           ` J-P. Rosen
2018-04-18 12:25                                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-18 13:51                                               ` J-P. Rosen
2018-04-18 14:12                                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-18 14:52                                                   ` J-P. Rosen
2018-04-18 15:04                                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-18 20:26                                                       ` AdaMagica
2018-04-18 21:00                                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-18 20:40                                                     ` AdaMagica
2018-04-19  7:34                                                       ` Simon Wright
2018-04-18 21:29                                                     ` J-P. Rosen
2018-04-19  7:32                                                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-26  0:04                                       ` Randy Brukardt
2018-04-26  8:56                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-26 22:10                                           ` Randy Brukardt
2018-04-27  4:48                                             ` J-P. Rosen
2018-04-27 20:52                                               ` Randy Brukardt
2018-04-17 11:16                           ` J-P. Rosen
2018-04-17 12:47                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-17 14:08                               ` J-P. Rosen
2018-04-17 14:47                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-17 22:00                                   ` Robert A Duff
2018-04-18  7:25                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-25 23:54                           ` Randy Brukardt
2018-04-26 16:22                             ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2018-04-26 16:43                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-26 20:19                                 ` J-P. Rosen
2018-04-16  9:19               ` AdaMagica
2018-04-16 15:15                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-19 20:39           ` G. B.
2018-04-20  7:27             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-25 23:46         ` Randy Brukardt
2018-04-26  9:03           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-26 22:25             ` Randy Brukardt
2018-04-27  7:37               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-27  8:32                 ` AdaMagica
2018-04-27  8:57                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-27 21:08                 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-04-28  8:35                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-29 17:41                     ` AdaMagica
2018-04-29 19:36                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-30 12:27                         ` AdaMagica
2018-04-30 13:03                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-30 16:52                           ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2018-04-30 17:06                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-05-01  9:17                             ` AdaMagica
2018-05-01  9:40                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2018-05-01 11:18                               ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2018-05-01 11:27                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-05-01 15:54                                 ` Niklas Holsti
2018-05-02 14:34                                   ` AdaMagica
2018-05-02 14:50                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-05-01  2:27                     ` Randy Brukardt
2018-05-01  6:59                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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