From: "Dr. Adrian Wrigley" <amtw@linuxchip.demon.co.uk.uk.uk>
Subject: Re: Reference-oriented language and high-integrity software
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:27:56 GMT
Date: 2006-11-03T15:27:56+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <pan.2006.11.03.15.26.39.594331@linuxchip.demon.co.uk.uk.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 4r0rggFoug8lU1@individual.net
On Fri, 03 Nov 2006 12:37:35 +0000, Peter Amey wrote:
> Maciej Sobczak wrote:
>
> [snip]
>>
>> And last but not least, how does the JB's statement stand in front of
>> things like RealTime Java or even HIJA (High-Integrity Java)
>
> The answer to this one is, I think, a bit easier. Neither RealTime Java
> nor HIJA can reasonably be described as Java. The last time I looked,
> both required special compilers; were designed to produce native machine
> code not an interpreted J code; allocated objects on the stack rather
> than heap; and had no garbage collection. The restrictions mean that
> you cannot use any of the standard libraries and don't get platform
> portable code; the two primary attraction of Java in the first place.
> What you do have is two new languages that just happen to have a
> Java-like syntax. The modifications required to give these new
> languages their real-time and high integrity credentials are precisely
> aligned with John Barnes's objections to them.
So the advantage is that you can attempt use existing programmers
for writing high integrity/real-time software. And the code
produced can even be executed with standard compilers/runtimes,
albeit without the benefits of the HI/RT environment.
And of course, all the IDEs, code analysis tools can be used.
Sounds rather useful.
The skeptics (Martin) are saying the only benefit is better buzz-words.
But then SPARK Ada is based on the same philosophy (restricted
language, compiler, run-time to achieve tougher HI/RT goals).
--
Adrian
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Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-11-03 8:03 Reference-oriented language and high-integrity software Maciej Sobczak
2006-11-03 8:58 ` Ludovic Brenta
2006-11-03 9:06 ` Maciej Sobczak
2006-11-03 9:43 ` roderick.chapman
2006-11-03 11:25 ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-11-03 11:15 ` Ludovic Brenta
2006-11-03 11:59 ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-11-03 12:37 ` Peter Amey
2006-11-03 14:44 ` Martin Krischik
2006-11-03 15:27 ` Dr. Adrian Wrigley [this message]
2006-11-03 16:17 ` Simon Wright
2006-11-03 17:30 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2006-11-06 7:14 ` Martin Krischik
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