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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Interesting article on ARG work
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 10:17:56 +0200
Date: 2018-04-10T10:17:56+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <pahrvj$1hhm$1@gioia.aioe.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: pagi68$ptq$1@franka.jacob-sparre.dk

On 09/04/2018 22:24, Randy Brukardt wrote:
> Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote in message
> news:pag4fd$pn4$1@gioia.aioe.org...
>> On 2018-04-09 18:12, Niklas Holsti wrote:
>>
>>> For example, the text
>>>
>>>   if Foo then
>>>   Bar;
>>> @ else
>>> @ Baz;
>>>   end if;
>>>
>>> would be parsed in four ways, according to the four combinations of
>>> choices (enabled/disabled) for the two @ signs:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> It is a trivial recursive-descent parser. "else" cannot follow "@",
>> because there is no statement starting with "else". Full stop.
> 
> Of course, that would very much emasulate the feature (probably 25% of the
> @-code in Janus/Ada is to remove various "elsif" and "else" cases).
> [Remember, we designed this code to work on very small memory hosts, so
> anything not critical to the operation of the compiler is removed. One
> reason that I don't use that any more in production code.]
> 
> Another common use that you wouldn't allow is to remove the exception
> handler from some code. (For Janus/Ada, the existence of an exception
> handler has a cost, so if it is not needed for production code, it is best
> completely eliminated.)

I think both cases would be happily handled by optimization:

    if ... then
      ...
    else
      @ Something
    end if;

Since @ Something becomes null, else null; is removed by the optimizer. 
The same would happen with

    exception
       when ... =>
          @ Something
          [raise;]

> I think you could come up with a rule that would be less harmful to the
> feature than requiring full statements, especially for composite statements
> like if and case and blocks.

Maybe, but that would require more pages to explain in the RM (:-))

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de

  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-10  8:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-02  3:32 Interesting article on ARG work Randy Brukardt
2018-04-02 14:49 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-03 16:34   ` Bojan Bozovic
2018-04-03 22:33     ` Randy Brukardt
2018-04-04  2:12       ` Bojan Bozovic
2018-04-04 15:05       ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-04 15:30         ` gerdien.de.kruyf
2018-04-04 16:09           ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-04 22:30         ` Randy Brukardt
2018-04-04 22:43           ` Paul Rubin
2018-04-05  0:44             ` Mehdi Saada
2018-04-05 21:23               ` Randy Brukardt
2018-04-05  2:05           ` Bojan Bozovic
2018-04-05 22:12             ` Randy Brukardt
2018-04-06 13:35               ` Bojan Bozovic
2018-04-07  2:01                 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-04-05  7:21           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-05 22:18             ` Randy Brukardt
2018-04-06  7:30               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-07  2:25                 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-04-07 10:11                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-07 15:27                     ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-07 15:59                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-08  0:14                         ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-08  7:46                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-08 19:48                             ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-08 20:09                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-09  3:50                                 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-09  6:40                                   ` Jan de Kruyf
2018-04-09  7:43                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-09 13:40                                     ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-09 14:13                                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-09 14:36                                         ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-09 14:44                                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-09 15:03                                             ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-09 16:12                               ` Niklas Holsti
2018-04-09 16:30                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-09 16:45                                   ` Niklas Holsti
2018-04-09 17:33                                     ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-09 19:47                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-04-09 20:24                                   ` Randy Brukardt
2018-04-10  8:17                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2018-04-09 18:08                                 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-09 21:17                                   ` Niklas Holsti
2018-04-09 22:09                                     ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-10 19:23                                       ` Niklas Holsti
2018-04-10 19:46                                         ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-15  7:50                                           ` Niklas Holsti
2018-04-15 13:31                                             ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-15 18:37                                               ` Niklas Holsti
2018-04-09 20:14                       ` Randy Brukardt
2018-04-06 23:49               ` Dan'l Miller
2018-04-12 10:21                 ` Marius Amado-Alves
2018-04-15 13:07                   ` Ada conditional compilation and program variants Niklas Holsti
2018-05-07  8:41                     ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2018-04-06 13:35 ` Interesting article on ARG work Marius Amado-Alves
2018-04-07  2:15   ` Randy Brukardt
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